Posted on 01/27/2006 11:10:37 PM PST by XHogPilot
Simply more evidence to refute the idea that China is going to go western anytime soon. It's still under an iron grip, and anyone thinking otherwise simply doesn't have a grip on reality, or has a vested business interest in the status quo in China.
I wonder what the Vegas oddmakers have on China screwing up from a PR standpoint on things like this and having the world boycott their 2008 Olympic coming out party.
Don't worry, Bill Gates says China's commies are just peachy.
bttt
Would you be a content and complaisant citizen, if you lived there?
Oh I guess you mean like shooting down your biggest trading partner's aircraft about 100 miles off your coast. Well, one short year after that China was awarded the Olympic games. So much for holding China accountable.
The Chincoms realise that to attempt to maintain the Mao-style of state socialism leads to revolt well sooner than later.
Hence, plan B; allow parts of the economy to pretend to be capitalist(ish), while still running the old state industries at a huge loss, and make the faux-capitalist sector of the economy pay for the privilege.
Ah, but the ChinComs missed something here, now didn't they? What happens when X hundred million peasants hear about all this wealth (''It is glorious to be rich'' -- Deng Xiao Ping, chairman of the Party, right?) and try to move to the cities where the wealth is created...and can't.
No place to live, no job they can do.
Don't waste any nukes on China. The citizens will, in dribs and drabs OR all at once, one day, do the job of neutering the ChinCom philosophy w/o incurring an enormous number of deaths.
'Chasing the Dragon' is the common and traditional euphemism for smoking opium. I would suggest that that phrase also is apropos to the hilariously and inevitably doomed policy of 'one nation, two systems'
you read this and it makes you want to go down to google HQ and strangle those commie-loving bastards.
I believe your comments describe accurately one possibility. I am still reminded that it doesn't take all that many people to control the masses.
When those without guns start being mowed down by those with them, it sorta puts a dent in your plans to rebel.
I know big money talks. Big guns talk louder.
that guy's just a little too enthusiastic. i wonder what their dont ask dont tell policy is like?
the best way to understand this stuff is to compare it to the US supreme court decision to allow governments to expropriate land by immenant domain in order to put up more profitable businesses.
this is really bad law and suggests that the supremes have seriously lost their bearings.
I have heard people in both parties come out against this supreme court ruling as states and municapalities are already starting to abuse the court ruling.
china has the same problem with government expropriation of land .... only they have it in spades.
In china the local governments can take whatever land they want whenever they want0--and they do so. The governing officials are driving their people ca ca by their helter skelter property expropriations.
With the two new conservative judges (assuming alito is confermed) likely within a couple years the US expropriation law will be overturned.)
The chinese don't have a simliar orderly means of changing the rules but from half a world away it looks like the ccp has been pretty good a protecting their interests and perogatives. So before things get out of hand my betting would be that its likely the party would make some adjustments.
The soldiers can't be everywhere. A coordinated protest in many rural districts would work. During the long, long history of China, peasant revolts frequently brought down regimes.
the guy in front looks like Pauly Shore
I'm not convinced that the general run of the mill Chinese silent majority is interested in such a thing. Yes, there will be the occassional disturbance. Heck, there are here too at times. I still believe the government holds the cards.
Yes, you're probably right about peasant revolts. I still maintain it doesn't take many bodies to convince folks that the odds aren't in their favor.
That nation has more unemployed peasants in the rural areas than the U.S. has population. Plain fact, no spin at all. The question is: what's to become of them?
Well, from the ChinCom gov's standpoint at least, if they'd care to sit on their butts until doomsday, that's fine; we'll tax some other segment of the economy so they don't run out of rice.
However, that's not the way it's playing out. The rural poor are moving to the cities en masse, and even in direct defiance of the Party's assorted edicts. The ChinCom response to date has been to try to build new cities to accommodate them, hence the radical price changes in copper, iron, and cement over the past couple of years.
Won't work, of course -- CAN'T work -- but the ChinComs apparently are unaware of John Galt's statement to Mr. Thompson.
I've no idea -- certainly hope not! -- that the rural peasants will be mowed down by the PLA on their masters' orders, but I rather think this won't come to pass. Perhaps an incident or two, but no more.
The ChinComs are taking the short end of history, both their own nation's history and that of other nations to boot. This has hardly ever been a winning proposition. Ask Chirac for further details (assuming he's even READ his own nation's history). Or ask the Romanovs, whatever's left of them. Or the pre-Chavez ruling party in Venezuela.
Point is that when a nation gets stuck with SO MANY illiterate peasants who become discontented with being illiterate peasants and WITHOUT bothering to become literate, the sequel is potentially more volatile than mercury fulminate.
Exactly where China is, just this moment.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out. If it goes as many seem to think, China will implode on it's own. I'm not banking on it.
I appreciate the comments.
"shooting down" ? Bnnnnnkkkkk.
Think back. Remember?
It was bad enough as it was.
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