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Wisconsin shall-issue: Assembly Fails To Override Concealed Carry Bill Veto
Channel 3000 ^ | January 31, 2006 | Channel 3000

Posted on 01/31/2006 7:18:03 PM PST by jdege

Assembly Fails To Override Concealed Carry Bill Veto

State Has Banned Concealed Weapons For 133 Years

UPDATED: 6:58 pm CST January 31, 2006

MADISON, Wis. -- The state Assembly failed to muster enough votes on Tuesday to override Gov. Jim Doyle's veto of the concealed carry bill.

The 64-34 vote means Wisconsin residents still won't be able to legally carry hidden guns and knives. The Assembly would have needed 66 votes to override the veto.

Two Democrats, state Reps. John Steinbrink and Terry Van Akkeren, changed their votes on the conceal carry issue -- both initially voted for the bill when it first passed the Assembly, but both voted against the override on Tuesday, WISC-TV reported.

Wisconsin is still one of only four states that prohibit concealed weapons. The override would have ended a 133-year ban on allowing Wisconsinites to carry concealed weapons.

The Senate voted to override the veto last week.

A two-thirds majority vote is required to override the governor's veto, so the focus of many Capitol watchers will be on just a few Assembly members whose votes will decide the bill's fate.

Under the bill, state residents who pass firearms training and get permits could carry concealed handguns, knives, billy clubs and electric shock weapons in most public places except for schools, taverns and police stations.

Wisconsin is one of four states that ban the carry of concealed weapons. Gun supporters and Republican legislators have been seeking to change that for years.

Bill sponsors said that it would deter crime and allow law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, their families and their property. Opponents said that the bill will only encourage gun violence and will leave people unsure of whether others around them are carrying hidden weapons.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: banglist; shallissue; wisconsin
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1 posted on 01/31/2006 7:18:05 PM PST by jdege
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To: jdege

One of several reasons that I no longer live in Wisconsin.
Liberals.
Crooked Gov.
High taxes.
Damn cold.


2 posted on 01/31/2006 7:20:43 PM PST by american_ranger
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To: jdege
Sounds to me like 3 people need to be voted out of office. The Gov and the two Dems that switched their vote.
3 posted on 01/31/2006 7:21:18 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: jdege
"Opponents said that the bill will only encourage gun violence and will leave people unsure of whether others around them are carrying hidden weapons."

Obviously, they have not done their homework on the decrease in crime in states where they can carry....
4 posted on 01/31/2006 7:21:29 PM PST by Kimmers
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To: jdege; Diana in Wisconsin

Our only hope is to get Doyle out of office this November.

Green '06!


5 posted on 01/31/2006 7:22:06 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: american_ranger

Still fighting the libs, corrupt gov, high taxes and cold...actually been a relatively mild winter. We're very hopeful the corrupt Gov will be gone in November (or indicted before then) which will help with the high taxes. If not, hubby and I may be joining you in the exodus from this state! lol


6 posted on 01/31/2006 7:24:42 PM PST by republicandiva
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To: Thunder90

DITTO!


7 posted on 01/31/2006 7:25:17 PM PST by republicandiva
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To: jdege
Keep heart Wisconsinites; now you know what to do:

A)Make sure Doyle doesn't reelected

B)Give John Steinbrink, and Terry Van Akkeren the Boot.

8 posted on 01/31/2006 7:25:18 PM PST by ozoneliar ("The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants" -T.J.)
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To: jdege

Durn. I thought you had this.


9 posted on 01/31/2006 7:27:20 PM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: jdege
Wisconsin is one of four states that ban the carry of concealed weapons.

Wisconsin, Illinois, Nebraska and Kansas.

I believe the issue in Wisconsin and Illinois is keeping the brothers down on the big city plantations. I thought we fought a Civil War over this kind of scheisse.

Apparently, the Democrats who fled the South to Milwaukee, Chicago and other points north didn't get the memo.

10 posted on 01/31/2006 7:41:27 PM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: Kimmers
"Opponents said that the bill will only encourage gun violence and will leave people unsure of whether others around them are carrying hidden weapons."

This needs to be "accurized":

"Opponents lied, as they did in dozens of other states, that the bill will only encourage gun violence and will leave people unsure of whether others around them are carrying hidden weapons."

11 posted on 01/31/2006 7:43:39 PM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: an amused spectator

Yep...we should give Illinois everything south of Hwy21
and take back the UP..

It would be a win win for everyone...


12 posted on 01/31/2006 7:44:45 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit our sister.. but we knew what to do.. we gathered rocks and squashed her!)
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To: jdege

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/assembly/asm65/asm65.html

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/assembly/asm26/asm26.html

Here are the two flippers. Voted for the bill but flipped on the override vote. Say hi to them. Both Dems


13 posted on 01/31/2006 7:54:15 PM PST by UB355 (Slower traffic keep right >>>>>>>>>>>>>>)
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To: jdege

Walker in 06'.

I am starting to hate the state I live in even though I love the area I am from. (Ozaukee County)


14 posted on 01/31/2006 7:56:26 PM PST by LukeL (Shop smart. Shop S-Mart)
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To: jdege
D'oh! Opponents said that the bill will only encourage gun violence and will leave people unsure of whether others around them are carrying hidden weapons.

Yah think? Of course, people here could actually mean people and not perps and punks, who can now continue their life of violence and pretty well know that most people are unarmed.

15 posted on 01/31/2006 8:13:28 PM PST by Simo Hayha (An education is incomplete without instruction in the use of arms to defend oneself against harm.)
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To: taxcontrol
Sounds to me like 3 people need to be voted out of office. The Gov and the two Dems that switched their vote.

Better the Gov and ALL the Dems, Greens, and RINOs, some percentage of the independents and maybe a pretend Libertarian or two.

Then don't settle for shall issue, because to be required to apply for state permission and pay a tax is infringement < /still unsatisfied shall issue state resident beating dead horse >.

16 posted on 01/31/2006 8:20:08 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Oregon - a pro-militia and firearms state that looks just like Afghanistan .)
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To: an amused spectator
I believe the issue in Wisconsin and Illinois is keeping the brothers down on the big city plantations. I thought we fought a Civil War over this kind of scheisse.

I believe that is probably the case in Nebraska, also, the blockage of their bill comes from Omaha.

17 posted on 01/31/2006 9:00:43 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: Thunder90

Anyone but doyle!
18 posted on 02/01/2006 4:16:07 AM PST by damncat (Hang doyle!)
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To: jdege

My state makes me a felon for exercising my constitutional right to bear arms . . . . .I gotta get outta this state.


19 posted on 02/01/2006 4:28:40 AM PST by WIladyconservative (PROUD MONTHLY DONOR - you can be, too! It's easy and painless!)
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This is good news.

The concealed-carry bill was watered down big time. Lots of concessions to Doyle and gun control groups.

Scott Walker will be elected and a better concealed-carry bill will be passed.

20 posted on 02/01/2006 9:03:52 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (None genuine without my signature - Jim Beam)
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