The Man Who Would Be le Président (Nicholas Sarkozy alert)

I loved him in Star Trek.

LOL.

I never watched that show.

;0))

Gavrilo Princip in prison cell in Theresienstadt

Gavrilo Princip (Serbian Cyrillic: Гаврило Принцип) (July 25, 1894 April 28, 1918) was a Bosnian Serb nationalist who killed Franz Ferdinand, Archduke of Austria, and his wife Countess Sophie in Sarajevo on June 28, 1914. The event, known as the assassination in Sarajevo, prompted the Austrian action against Serbia that led to World War I.

Early Life Born in Obljaj, Bosansko Grahovo, Bosnia and Herzegovina. Gavrilo Princip's parents, Petar and Marija Nana Mičić, had nine children, five sons and four daughters, six of whom died in infancy. His health was poor. From an early age, he suffered from tuberculosis, which was his eventual cause of death in 1918, and was also one of the reasons he let himself kill Archduke Ferdinand in the first place.

Princip attended primary school in Grahovo where he excelled in his studies, especially in romantic and historic literature. A teacher at the school gave him a collection of Serbian heroic folk poetry. At thirteen, Princip planned on a military career and went to Sarajevo to study at the Military School. After arriving, he instead chose to pursue a business career so he enrolled in the Merchant's School where he studied for three years.

Contrary to common belief, Princip was not a member of the Black Hand, but was a member of the group Young Bosnia (Mlada Bosna), which he joined in 1911. The Young Bosnia Movement was a group made up of Serbs, Croats, and Bosnian Muslims, committed to achieving independence for Bosnia.

http://www.answers.com/topic/gavrilo-princip

http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/006.shtml

The Holocaust in Bosnia-Hercegovina, 1941-1945

by Carl K. Savich
Bosnia-Hercegovina has for over a millennium been a battleground where the world's major religions, civilizations, cultures, and empires have clashed and collided: Catholicism, Orthodoxy, Islam, Judaism, the Ottoman Empire, the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the medieval Serbian, Croatian,and Bosnian Empires, the East and the West. Bosnia-Hercegovina was the dividing line between East and West, between Catholicism and the West and Orthodoxy, Islam, and Judaism and the East. The churches, the cathedrals,the mosques, and the synagogues are the remaining symbols of this battle and conflict between cultures and empires.

World War I began in Bosnia, one of the bloodiest and most horrific wars in the history of mankind, ushering in the twentieth century. The Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78 sprang from the 1875 insurrection in Bosnia-Hercegovina. During World War II, Bosnia-Hercegovina was one of the bloodiest battlefields of the war and of the Holocaust.

The Bosnian Serbs are representatives of the Orthodox Christian Church and of the Byzantine culture and are part of the larger Serbian nation. The Bosnian Croats are representatives of the Roman Catholic Church and the Austro-Hungarian culture and are part of the Croatian nation. The Bosnian Muslims are representatives of Sunni Islam and were part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire and culture. The Bosnian Jews are representatives of Judaism and are mostly descendants of Sephardic Jews expelled from Spain following the Inquisition and expulsion of the Jews.

From 1941-1945, Bosnia-Hercegovina was part of the NDH, Nezavisna Drzava Hrvatska, the Independent State of Croatia and was one of the bloodiest arenas of the Holocaust and battlefields of the war. With the assistance of Haj Amin el Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, and Reichsfuehrer SS Heinrich Himmler, the Bosnian Muslim leadership undertook the systematic extermination of the Jewish and non-Muslim, non-Croat population of Bosnia-Hercegovina. Two Waffen SS Divisions and other Nazi and fascist formations were formed to advance the goals of the Third Reich and of Islam. The goal of the Muslims was to achieve autonomy and independence for Bosnia-Hercegovina under Muslim rule. The period 1941-1945 is crucial in understanding and comprehending the Bosnian civil war of 1992-1995.

The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem

Haj Amin el Husseini fled to Europe in 1941 following the unsuccessful pro-Nazi coup which he organized in Iraq. He met Joachim von Ribbentrop and was officially received by Adolf Hitler on November 28, 1941 in Berlin. Nazi Germany established for der Grossmufti von Jerusalem a Bureau from which he organized the following: 1) radio propaganda on behalf of Nazi Germany; 2) espionage and fifth column activities in Muslim regions of Europe and the Middle East; 3) the formation of Muslim Waffen SS and Wehrmacht units in Bosnia, the Balkans, North Africa, and Nazi-occupied areas of the Soviet Union; and, 4) the formation of schools and training centers for Muslim imams and mullahs who would accompany the Muslim SS and Wehrmacht units. As soon as he arrived in Europe,the Mufti established close contacts with Bosnian Muslim and Albanian Muslim leaders. He would spend the remainder of the war organizing and rallying Muslims in support of Nazi Germany.

Haj Mohammed Effendi Amin el Husseini was born in 1893 in Jerusalem, then the capital of Palestine, which was a part of the Turkish Ottoman Empire. In 1917, during World War I, the British occupied Palestine and established the Mandate. On November 2, 1917, British Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour announced that Britain was committed to establishing a Jewish homeland in formerly Ottoman Palestine, which was known as the Balfour Declaration of 1917.

Husseini devoted his entire life and career to the destruction of a proposed Jewish homeland and the prevention of Jewish immigration into Palestine. His goal was to create an Arab state of Palestine with the concomitant extermination or marginalization of the Jewish population..."

Running through the carnage of two world wars is islam, islam, islam...

How true.

Caldwell's writing-and this holds true for any venue, whether it be the Weekly Standard, The Atlantic, or even his brief stint at that execrable rag, The New York Press-is beyond reproach.

Regardless of whether I agree or disagree with his opinion on any given issue, I can't gainsay the eloquence and penetrating insight with which he expresses it, and his writing on European issues and personalities, Mary Robinson, Gerhard Schroeder, French political affairs, is phenomenal.

He's right up there with Mark Steyn, in my estimation.

I totally agree, but Mark Steyn's humour he doesn't have, nor does he need it. Making it all the more difficult now for me to add my own pathetic contribution. But here goes, the last in the series...how islam winds it's way through the sewers of our history (and no one ever told us.)

Beginning with Princip as a potential 'useful idiot' for islam, the leaders of the quite possibly muslim-controlled and motivated 'revolutionary' group he belonged to, must have understood the various alliances of the period, and how it would result in a huge conflict...if the Archduke was assassinated.
Better to allow or persuade a misfit, a consumptive Christian to carry out the deed - persuade him he was striking a blow for Independence from the Austrian Empire, than have a muslim do it...islam has not, will NEVER forget it was driven back from the gates of Vienna!
Under the cover of the Great War, the Turks annihilated the Christian Armenians; that's nothing less than the usual islamic 'cleansing' of territory...which they did whilst Germany was their ally and witness.

While Hitler was in the trenches, fighting beside the Turks, imbibing muslim hatred of Jews and Christianity, learning about islam, reading from the koran...that terror manual, a collection of instructions on how to annihilate human beings. (Tie them up and burn them alive etc. That's what the Turks did to hundreds of thousands of Armenians.)

Hitler returns to Germany after the war. There is to be a brief communist government. He identifies communism with Jews. He has the enemy he needs, he has the indoctrination...he has studied the methods used by the Turks. Two world wars. For and about islam. The ideology of hatred is infectious! Hitler promises the Mufti of Jerusalem 'no Jew will leave Europe alive'

http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/medigest/may00/arabnazi.html

History needs a re-write. We have only touched the surface. We treat the symptoms and have no idea of the cause IMO.

That book should be part of every syllabus in every school throughout this country's public school system.

People need to realize that they are being lied to.

Islam=Death and/or subjugation if you're "shirk."

The massacre of "dhimmis," i.e. non-Muslims, by Abdul Hamid and by the Pashas were only different in scale, not intent.

The second Armenian genocide set the stage for the Holocaust because before there were Nazis there were Muslims, whose virulent antipathy towards Judaism matched-if not eclipsed-anything seen under the Third Reich.

In fact, in Muslim nations today Adolf Hitler is rebuked, not for the unimaginable atrocities he committed against humanity, but for not exterminating more Jews in a more efficient, expeditious manner.

That is the sick, perverse, depraved mentality we are dealing with, and the sooner we recognize it the better off we'll all be.

Take a look at the date on this letter:
The Author? Immanuel Velikovsky.

The Daily Compass
THURSDAY, JUNE 23, 1949

Dean Acheson's Promise

By OBSERVER
Recent reports from Damascus inform us of a secret agreement between the ex-Mufti of Jerusalem and the Syrian dictator Zayim.

On Aug. 28, 1946, Dean Acheson, then Undersecretary and Acting Secretary of State, announced that the State Dept. was preparing a White Paper on the activities of the ex-Mufti, comprised of documents seized in Germany by the Allied armies. The White Paper was not published. Mr. Acheson stepped out of the State Dept.; others there remained silent as to the promise of the ex-Secretary and obviously disavowed it. During the war in Palestine, State Dept. officials would not publishe the documents concerning the ex-Mufti; this failure to act was not explained.

It is now several months since Mr. Acheson has been back in the State Dept., this time as Secretary of State. Now, to fulfill the promise he made when Undersecretary, he does not need the consent of a superior in the department—he is the chief. He is therefore respectfully requested to release, as promised by him almost three years ago, a full account of the documents concerning the ex-Mufti seized in Germany.

If these documents prove that the ex-Mufti is a war criminal and a criminal against humanity, then holding them back casts a shadow on the silken curtain.

If a person must be tried at the place where he committed the crime the ex-Mufti ought to be brought to trial in Palestine where he and his henchmen in 1936-39 killed and wounded more than one thousand Jews from ambush and as many Arabs of rival families and a number of Britons, and from where, after hiding in a mosque, he fled in the garb of a woman to Syria. He ought to be tried in Syria where he was a spy on Mussolini’s payroll and from where he fled to Iraq.

He ought to be tried in Iraq, the state which he, by intrigue and bribe, brought into the war against the Allies at the critical time when Nazi troops were entering Greece, Crete and Egypt, and from where, the rebellion having been quashed, he fled to Iran, but not before he had 400 Jews assassinated in a pogrom in Bagdad. On July 2, 1941, the Investigating Committee appointed by a new Iraqi Government declared: “The causes of the outbursts are Nazi propaganda emanating from (1) the German Legation, (2) the Mufti of Jerusalem and his henchmen who followed him to Iraq.” Gen. Wavell’s price on his head ($100,000) is still valid. After hiding in the Japanese Legation in Iran, he fled to Rome. He ought to be brought to trial there: in his radio speeches from Italy he incited the Arabs to murder and cursed the American people.

Then to Germany, where he was the chief instigator of the annihilation of the Jews, a counselor of Himmler and Eichman, and a visitor of gas chambers. And to Yugoslavia where he, a British-Palestinian subject, formed the Bosnian Legion to fight the Allies. And to Hungary, from where, following his letter to the Hungarian Government, Jewish children were sent to Poland to be killed there; and to Romania, where he did the same thing; and to North Africa, where he helped organize troops against the American forces; and finally to the French zone in Germany where he was caught with the bags of gold he received from Hitler before the Führer reached the end of his rope.

* * *
Can it be that the documents seized at that time by the American Army in Germany exonerate the ex-Mufti? And to a degree that none of these trials should take place? Then they should certainly be made public to protect the good name of an innocent person, especially in view of the fact that he has embarked on new activity in Syria.

http://www.varchive.org/obs/index.htm

New York Post
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 30, 1948

The Arab Refugees

The Invaders Get International Help that
May be Converted into Military Aid
By OBSERVER
(EDITOR’S NOTE: On Saturday the United States Delegation at Paris pledged a minimum of $13,000,000 from the U.S. to the fund for Arab refugees in Palestine. While approving assistance for refugees, Arab, Jew, or gentile, anywhere, T.O. Thackrey, coeditor of the New York Post Home News, suggests that the $13,000,000 available be applied as the first installment on the United States' promised loan to Israel. . . and that the $13,000,000 for Arab relief be raised as follows: $ 8,000,000 from Great Britain in place of the $ 8,000,000 she paid Abdullah to invade Palestine this year, thereby causing the Arab refugee problem; say $ 2,000,000 from King Ibn Saud of Saudi Arabia, also a Palestine invader, from his subsidy from the American-Arabian oil company: the remainder from Great Britain by eliminating the cost of maintaining Foreign Minister Bevin’s 1948 Dachau at Cyprus!)

If you have visited one of the Arab countries, you certainly have seen Arab beggars—men, women and children—blind or decrepit—crying for alms. If you have watched them, you must have been impressed by the fact that almost no Arab gives anything, not even the smallest coin, to the poor; and you may have wondered. Why do they then ask for alms? An occasional foreigner, a European or an American, who passes along the street, may drop a coin; but an Arab who begs in the precincts of a mosque visited by Arabs only will not collect enough for a loaf of bread no matter how much he may display his infirmities.

* * *

There are hundreds of thousands of Arabs who, following the commencement of hostilities in Palestine, left their domiciles at the call of Arab leaders from outside. The case of Haifa is especially well authenticated. When the British prepared to leave the city, they practically suggested that the two sides contest for it. After a day or two of battle, the Arab leaders appeared before the British General with a request that he negotiate the surrender.

The conditions offered by the Jewish forces included full freedom and all civil rights for the Arab residents of Haifa; the Arabs who came from foreign countries to fight were to leave Palestine; and the surrender of only the German (Nazi) officers of the Arab “irregulars” was demanded. The Arab emissaries accepted the conditions transmitted to them by the British General.

A few hours later, however, they returned and, wiping the sweat from their brows, informed the General that they had received orders from abroad not to go through with the agreement and to alert the Arab population that they should hurriedly leave the city. An exodus followed.

* * *

Transjordan has, according to Arab sources, one hundred thousand refugees, and in all there are over three hundred thousand. You never can trust figures coming from an Arab source. According to the Egyptian and Syrian war communiqués, they have killed more Jews than there are in Israel. Neither can your rely on figures on refugees, especially if help from abroad is asked. But if there are one hundred thousand refugees in Transjordan, they must constitute a great burden on this country unless they are fit to work.

Abdullah approached Ibn Saud, the owner of the Arabian oil fields and the recipient of fabulous royalties from Aramco. In answer to Abdullah’s appeal, Ibn Saud declared that he would donate $50,000, a few hours’ income from his royalties. Actually, Abdullah probably did not receive anything from Ibn Saud, for the promise did not specify whether the help would be given to the refugees in Transjordan or elsewhere.

Seven Arab countries that boast that hundreds of millions of Moslems throughout the world stand solidly behind them appeal to international organizations, private groups, and various governments, asking for help to care for the refugees from Palestine.

From Europe and America hands eager to help stretch toward the Arab refugees. But unless the distribution is placed in the hands of some organization, the food, clothing, and tents will not reach them. They will most certainly reach Arab armies; and just as certainly they will enrich some private pockets.

* * *

To lend a neutral character to the appeal, 7,000 Jewish refugees are included with the 300,000 Arab refugees. On this point I have my doubts. Are these Jewish refugees from pogroms in Cairo and Bagdad? There are no Jewish refugees in Israel who would accept help from international organizations. Will the help be delivered to the imprisoned Jews in Arab countries?

There are hundreds of thousands of Jewish refugees, since 1933, and since 1937 (Anschluss of Austria), since 1939, and since V-E Day in 1945. Jewish organizations have taken care of them as well as they could. They were not among their own people as the Arabs are, but among hostile, anti-Semitic populations.

Israel, a state that was born into war, manages to keep its entire able-bodied population mobilized and on the front; at the same time it brings within its borders every month ten thousand destitute refugees, mostly women and children. How can this be done? Only at the cost of great sacrifices, and only in the spirit of great cooperation. And only because Israel is really a nation: a people who do not leave their land in war; who share among themselves whatever they have.

* * *

The International Red Cross and other organizations that consider it their duty to alleviate suffering and right the wrong are invited to join the Committee for the Forgotten Million, Inc., to care for the imprisoned Jews in Arab countries—Yemen, Egypt, Iraq, and Syria in the first place—and to give help to the victims of pogroms.

The United Nations is invited to send investigation commissions into these countries, or at least to demand a report on existing conditions from the respective Governments.

I just found this article, posted Feb 9, 2006.

Hague Judge Silences Bin Laden Bosnia Testimony, as NATO’s Claims Questioned:

http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/1575113/posts

...and from where, after hiding in a mosque, he fled in the garb of a woman.

Gee, where have I heard that before?

A Muslim fanatic cowardly running away while dressed like a woman...

"The Muslims have massacred more Hindus than Jews who perished in the Holocaust, as astounding as it might be to believe."

Such historical events should be known by every person on Earth, but unfortunately it is not. Sad.

Thanks for bringing this to the attention of Freepers, Do not dub me shapka broham.

If you have a handy link, please do not hesitate to share.

http://www.mantra.com/holocaust/

Your posts and links are a must-read.

Thanks for sharing them with us all.

Saving the thread for later read.

Thanks.

Saved link to Desktop.

I will, I must, find the time to read.

Serge Trifkovic:

The massacres perpetrated by the Muslims in India are unparalleled in history, bigger in sheer numbers than the Holocaust, or the massacre of the Armenians by the Turks; more extensive even than the slaughter of the South American native populations by the invading Spanish and Portuguese. They are insufficiently known in the outside world, however:

From Francois Gautier,

The British, in pursuing their policy of divide-and-rule, colluded to whitewash the atrocious record of the Muslims so that they could set up the Muslims as a strategic counterbalance to the Hindus. During the freedom struggle, Gandhi and Nehru went around encrusting even thicker coats of whitewash so that they could pretend a facade of Hindu-Muslim unity against British colonial rule. After independence, Marxist Indian writers, blinkered by their distorting ideology, repeated the big lie about the Muslim record.

Militant Islam sees India as "unfinished business," and it remains high on the agenda of oil-rich Muslim countries such as Saudi Arabia, which are spending millions every year trying to convert Hindus to Islam.

Sarkozy's approach is to blow past these worries, to face up to the fact that Islam is in France to stay, and to focus on making coexistence tolerable to all parties.

Never happen. Tolerance is not in the Koran. But you will find "death to infidels" in it. Trying to get along is only giving the ball and the bat to the muskies.

I loved him in Star Trek (don't know what I was thinkin' regarding Nehemiah Persoff).

"separated at birth?" bump back to the top for an old topic.

interesting thread, that one.

good information