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GOP is in 'deep funk' over Bush spending
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 3/12/6 | Carolyn Lochhead

Posted on 03/12/2006 7:51:39 AM PST by SmithL

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To: dljordan

The country wouldnt support any of that...teh solution is quite simple and was successful in the 1990s...limit spending growth so that tax revenue growth > spending growth, you get a balanced budget with a few years...happened between 1995 and 2000


81 posted on 03/12/2006 8:53:15 AM PST by georgia2006
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To: Howlin

"And they cannot win by running away from Bush"

They win by being conservatives. In many areas, this means "running away" from Bush.


82 posted on 03/12/2006 8:53:23 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: RFEngineer
This argument has gone on here infinitum. My point is that we have dims and ALL of the MSM constantly bashing our side. Elections are upcoming, and the thin populace controlling Federal Election outcomes (that is the swing voter) will be hard pressed to join our side when ALL that they hear tears down ALL that we have to work with.

ALL, SOME, or NOTHING... I'll take "some" any day.

LLS
83 posted on 03/12/2006 8:53:25 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: ketelone
Well, where could money be saved?

I noticed no one was answering your question.

For starters, eliminate the following agencies:
National Endowment for the Arts
Department of Education

Stop Transportation pork
Stop paying farmers for not growing
Eliminate Social Security.

84 posted on 03/12/2006 8:53:25 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"So the Congress passes the bills and it's Bush's fault for not vetoing them?"


Yes. That's one of his executive powers.

He threatened to veto the Transportation Spending Bill "if it comes to my desk a dollar over $255 Billion".

The final, unvetoed bill was close to $300 Billion.

NO VETO.


85 posted on 03/12/2006 8:53:44 AM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: Moonman62

Yeah don't let any thing like FACTs or REALITY get in the way now of regurigtating the same old rants you whiners have posted 10,000 times before.


86 posted on 03/12/2006 8:54:00 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: georgia2006
the LP party isnt serious because so many of their memebers are memebers for one reason and one reason only..legal narcotics

Heh...well if alcohol and cigarettes are legal... :)
87 posted on 03/12/2006 8:55:20 AM PST by TrollBridge
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To: MNJohnnie

Tell us how you REALLY feel, there, Johnnie. Had you read the thread, you'd have seen that all of your points have been already mentioned, albeit in a somewhat less frantic way.


88 posted on 03/12/2006 8:55:23 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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To: MNJohnnie

There are a handful of subversives on FR, friend. They are maneuvering to try to undercut GOP activism and generate Democrat seat gains. In general, the best defense is do not respond to them and then their pro Democrat threads stop being bumped unless they do it themselves -- which is counterproductive to their intent. Just letting you know. Concentrate your attention on the threads that engender enthusiasm for victory, both in Iraq and in 2006 vulnerable districts.


89 posted on 03/12/2006 8:55:42 AM PST by Owen
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To: aimhigh

totally unrealistic...especially the last suggestion.....


90 posted on 03/12/2006 8:55:44 AM PST by georgia2006
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To: georgia2006

"the point is that the LP is not and will not be taken seriously until they abandon their legalized drugs position."


Not to mention their insane open-borders policy.

Also their "amnesty for illegals" policy.

Ooops - that last one is Bush's idea!


91 posted on 03/12/2006 8:55:44 AM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: raybbr
That right. Cling to your belief that the ONLY what Mike Savage tells you are "Facts". Don't let anything like REALITY get in the way of your blind hero worship of the mentally derange Savage's spews.
92 posted on 03/12/2006 8:55:50 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: MineralMan

Yeah, it is just easier for the Whine All The Time Choir to simply post and repost the same old rants day after day. God forbid they ACTUALLY tried to learn anything.


93 posted on 03/12/2006 8:57:22 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Are you not entertained? Are you NOT entertained? Is this not what you came here for?)
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To: dljordan

My goodness... the department of agriculture actually has a MOHAIR SUBSIDY!

WTF??


94 posted on 03/12/2006 8:57:30 AM PST by ketelone
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To: LibLieSlayer

"ALL, SOME, or NOTHING... I'll take "some" any day"

I'll take conservatism as a winning strategy over anything else. The reason the MSM can successfully bash republicans is that "republican" no longer is equated with "conservative" - nobody seems to know what it means to be "republican" anymore.

If you do, please let me know.


95 posted on 03/12/2006 8:57:53 AM PST by RFEngineer
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To: NonValueAdded

Same with open borders.. it seems to me that Congress has to grant the authority to seal off the borders with the miltary.

Perhaps not actually putting them there but Congress could earmark extra money for the military for additional troops for the purpose of guarding the border.. why not do that and send a strong message that's what needs to get done?

Why? Because congress is as spineless as the President on the issue and that includes democrats too.

What about overhauling Social Security? Isn't that something conservative we all wanted done? The president tried that and the republican congress is the one that backed out on that.

Sounds like to me there is plenty of blame to go around.

It also sounds like to me we can knock some incumbants down onto the chopping block and get some new people in there. I think conservativism is winning strong over liberalism. We just need some new people in Congress bold enough to assert that authority.


96 posted on 03/12/2006 8:58:00 AM PST by Almondjoy
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To: Owen

"There are a handful of subversives on FR, friend."


By 'subversive', you must mean "fiscal conservatives tired of a fiscally-liberal President".

Count me as one of those. Record increases in non-discretionary (i.e. non-9/11, non-Iraq, non-WOT) spending such as the insidious, socialist Medicare debacle are what us fiscal conservatives are ticked off about.

"Conservative" doesn't mean "Party over Principle" amongst us non-Bushbots.


97 posted on 03/12/2006 8:58:32 AM PST by Blzbba (Sub sole nihil novi est)
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To: MNJohnnie
Don't let anything like REALITY get in the way of your blind hero worship of the mentally derange Savage's spews.

Let's see. MNJohnnie's hysterical posts or Micheal Savage's comments on the radio.

Yep. We have a winner.

Savage!!!!!!!!!!!!

98 posted on 03/12/2006 8:58:57 AM PST by raybbr
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To: NonValueAdded

Well said!! And at the same time, Congress refuses to grant the line item veto, by writing it into law, and making it constitutional.


99 posted on 03/12/2006 8:59:22 AM PST by Pragmatic Warrior (Grow your own dope. Plant a liberal!!)
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To: Almondjoy

""What about overhauling Social Security? Isn't that something conservative we all wanted done? The president tried that and the republican congress is the one that backed out on that.""


Here is where conservatives desperatly need a history lesson. No one should ahve thought that SS was going to be overhauled in 2005, it wasnt. Overhauling SS is a long process that will eventually occur.

In 1975 Roanld Reagan gave a speech on welfare reform, he was dismissed even by conservatives. In 1996, welfare reformed was signed into law by a Democrat President.


100 posted on 03/12/2006 9:00:31 AM PST by georgia2006
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