Burned out by butt-inskis

Boston Herald.com ^ | May 20, 2006 | Michael Siegel

[383rr]

Also, when smokers are kicked out of their apartments, home (by lenders), and such ... will we begin to see "Smoker Ghettos" reminiscent of Warsaw in the 1940's?


Oh my, what a horrible thought!


Sad to say, I wouldn't doubt such a thing. I have never seen a campaign to ostracise people like these anti tobacco folks put on.

[SheLion]

Sad to say, I wouldn't doubt such a thing. I have never seen a campaign to ostracise people like these anti tobacco folks put on.

Well, I have to agree with you.  When their war on the smokers didn't work, then they turned to the general non-smoking public telling them that second hand smoke is KILLING everyone.  And pity those that actually believe this junk.

But if they totally succeed with getting rid of smokers, you know they won't stop there.  They have more groups they want to stamp out.  I wish they would get a life and stay out of ours!

[Smokin' Joe]

Nothing more politically or socially disgusting than a prissy prude who sniffs her nose at smokers as she dismounts from her V8 powered SUV.

My personal favorites are the ones who start coughing when you take out the pack. (No, you have not lit a cigarette, they just saw the pack.) What are they 'allergic' to?

[Biblebelter]

Burger King has a great new politically incorrect burger commerical, I AM MALE a parody of Helen Reddy's I Am Woman, where men want their meat and burgers. One of the best parts is they trash the automotive symbol of the soccer mom and the nanny state which is a minivan.

[ExtremeUnction]

When laws become outrageous, they also become impossible to enforce. I was in a locality recently that bans talking on cell phones when driving. About one out of five people I saw driving were on a cell phone! Why? Because who's going to stop them?! On my entire four day business trip, I never saw a police car. Thus, the law is unenforceable (like most liberal laws).

[383rr]

"But if they totally succeed with getting rid of smokers, you know they won't stop there."

That's just the thing. I don't think this will stop until they get in our homes. The lies are just outrageous, and the propaganda they spout is insane.

And like you say, they're doing all this on our dime!

[EVO X]

My personal favorites are the ones who start coughing when you take out the pack.

Maybe an ex-smoker with COPD?

[383rr]

That commercial is hilarious!

[SheLion]

When laws become outrageous, they also become impossible to enforce. I was in a locality recently that bans talking on cell phones when driving. About one out of five people I saw driving were on a cell phone! Why? Because who's going to stop them?! On my entire four day business trip, I never saw a police car. Thus, the law is unenforceable (like most liberal laws).

That's right.  And the police have no time to enforce this petty annie stuff.

When California forced a smoking ban on the bars, the bars started a "phone tree."  They would smoke until they got a call that the smoke police were on the prowl.  Then, they would put away all the ashtrays.  What a horrible way to have to run a business!

When laws become outrageous, they also become impossible to enforce. I was in a locality recently that bans talking on cell phones when driving. About one out of five people I saw driving were on a cell phone! Why? Because who's going to stop them?! On my entire four day business trip, I never saw a police car. Thus, the law is unenforceable (like most liberal laws).

That's right.  And the police have no time to enforce this petty annie stuff.

When California forced a smoking ban on the bars, the bars started a "phone tree."  They would smoke until they got a call that the smoke police were on the prowl.  Then, they would put away all the ashtrays.  What a horrible way to have to run a business!

[SheLion]

That's just the thing. I don't think this will stop until they get in our homes. The lies are just outrageous, and the propaganda they spout is insane.

And like you say, they're doing all this on our dime!

Well, when you hear of a state's "pet programs," these are the very programs they are talking about.  Overly paying the anti's working in the Boards of Health.  They are screaming they want smoke free everything, but I sure don't believe that.  If a state went totally smoke free, these idiots would be out of a job.

I know a lot of FReepers hate smoking, and that's fine.  It's not for everyone.  But the more we can get the word out about what they are doing to us and private businesses, it will help to make people more aware of what is going on.

[Shadow Deamon]

"People would take better care of themselves, use prescription drugs more wisely, etc., if they were responsible for a greater portion of the cost."

Only to a point, it costs me almost $500.00/month before I even use my insurance and I am 53 with a 5 year old daughter and an epileptic wife. It costs me an additional $150 a month for my wifes various meds and Dr visit copays. Because of this, I don't go to the doctor and there are more than one very big reasons that I should. I am a milignant melanoma survivor but fear it's returned and I suffer from severe degenerative arthritis in the neck and spine. I cannot afford to see a doctor or be hospitilized. My wife cannot drive and we live in the country. I'm screwed and I pay a very large chunk of money for my healthcare.

[SheLion]

What comes next? Laws that ban fat people from the public square so that children won’t associate obesity with public acceptability? Laws that prohibit people from eating fast food in public so children won’t see this behavior and associate it with a healthy lifestyle?

Too late for these two! heh!

[Tax-chick]

Obviously, I was generalizing.

[EVO X]

But the more we can get the word out about what they are doing to us and private businesses, it will help to make people more aware of what is going on.

Champaign-Urbana, Il just enacted a smoking ban to start in August. Surrounding communities said smokers are welcome.

They interviewed the coordinator of the smoke free alliance and he said there was no or very little impact on businesses from smoking bans. I guess we'll find out this fall.

[gidget7]

"The expressed purposes of the ordinance are to protect nonsmokers from exposure to secondhand smoke and to reduce “the potential for children to associate smoking and tobacco with a healthy lifestyle.”


EXCUSE ME???????

No one ever has promoted smoking as a healthy lifestyle. For that matter, IT ISN"T a lifestyle, it's choosing to use a legal product.

Promoting falsely, a healthy lifestyle, is the game of the homosexual agenda. NOT smokers. Promoting behavior that as destructive in every way to say the least, as a healthy lifestyle in school to children, is the game of the homosexual agenda, NOT smokers.

Smokers have never promoted smoking to kids has healthy, not now not ever.

[SheLion]

Champaign-Urbana, Il just enacted a smoking ban to start in August. Surrounding communities said smokers are welcome.

They interviewed the coordinator of the smoke free alliance and he said there was no or very little impact on businesses from smoking bans. I guess we'll find out this fall.

I posted this article this morning about all of Illinois not going smoke free.  I commend them!  Let the owners decide!

Illinois: Smokers welcome, cities say

City and village leaders in Gibson City, Gifford, Mahomet, Monticello, Paxton, Philo, Rantoul, Savoy, St. Joseph, Tolono and Villa Grove all say they have no plans to follow Champaign's lead in passing a comprehensive smoking ban, which will be effective Aug. 1 if Urbana approves a similar ordinance in the next several weeks.

Meanwhile, business owners in the surrounding communities say Champaign-Urbana smokers will be welcome there. They anticipate increased sales from C-U smokers looking for a place to puff.

As for smoking bans not hurting businesses, this just isn't so.  Thousands of restaurants and bars across the country have closed when they were forced to go smoke free.

THE REAL FACTS OF THE SMOKING BANS IMPACT ON BUSINESS'S
The Facts

[SheLion]

Promoting falsely, a healthy lifestyle, is the game of the homosexual agenda. NOT smokers. Promoting behavior that as destructive in every way to say the least, as a healthy lifestyle in school to children, is the game of the homosexual agenda, NOT smokers.

Smokers have never promoted smoking to kids has healthy, not now not ever.

This burns me up more then I can say when a FReeper points blame at us saying that we keep saying that smoking does not cause harm.  This is a blatant lie.  We have never ever said that smoking is harmless.

But it IS legal.  And what the government is doing to us for using a legal product is downright illiterate!  IMHO.

[Smokin' Joe]

Usally a never smoker with a craniorectal insertion.

[RedStateRocker]

I am taking a bit of joy in watching the same fascists who suggest or support drug testing for weed or coke now being weeded out because of their nicotine habit (Don't indulge in anything but think there should NEVER be allowed any testing for substance use nor it it the slightest business of any employer what someone does after quitting time); now I've seen one of those 'old guard' worried that HE may lose his job for smoking cigs.

[gidget7]

^5

I get sick around mold, so I can relate. However I can't and wouldn't suggest that health organizations act as law enforcement, and search each and every place I MIGHT enter, to insure there is no mold. Every home has mold, the seen or the unseen. (Including my own) To suggest that it's all about me, and people should be forced to keep it killed, is so patently ridiculous, I cannot contemplate it.