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Europe at a crossroads
American University of Rome ^ | February 21, 2006 | Marcello Pera

Posted on 05/24/2006 6:03:44 PM PDT by sageb1

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I apologize if this has been posted. I did a search and didn't find it. It is somewhat long, but really worth the read, so for those of you watching American Idol, please bookmark for later.

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1 posted on 05/24/2006 6:03:52 PM PDT by sageb1
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2 posted on 05/24/2006 6:08:57 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Dig deeper, more ammo.)
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In 1913, European culture was the most sophisticated in the world. Modern technology and overseas colonies created a truly global economy that was raising living standards everywhere.

Then came WWI.

Europe has been in decline ever since 1914. Like Britain after the Roman legions left, I think there will be centuries of darkness before Europe ever matters again.

3 posted on 05/24/2006 6:16:23 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Never question Bruce Dickinson!)
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To: sageb1

Outstanding! Bravo! Thanks very much for posting.


4 posted on 05/24/2006 6:30:01 PM PDT by PGalt
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"I think there will be centuries of darkness before Europe ever matters again."

If they don't come around soon, I fear you are right. My biggest worry is the Left in our own country is following in their footsteps. And this is what will happen in America if the Dems come to power. The anti-war/anti-moral crowd would deny that they are guilty of relativism. Activists and protestors can't possibly be guilty of such a thing, can they? What they don't realize is that they are fighting against is anti-relativism. They are afraid for America to be "right" or moral about international affairs if being right makes us different or unloved.

As the writer points out, it is not America that has changed, it is Europe.

5 posted on 05/24/2006 6:31:31 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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"In other words, the separation of Church and State does imply that one institution is not superordinate to the other, but does not entail expelling religion from social life and considering it purely as a private affair, ultimately relegated to a “ghetto of subjectivity”, to use a phrase of Pope Benedict XVI. Unfortunately, this is exactly what is happening in Europe. The public expression of religion is disliked, disapproved, frustrated, if not prohibited.

The first consequence is that religion can no longer nourish our civil customs, provide a spiritual ground for our societies or act as a support for our public rules and behaviour..."

Brilliant point.


"...unlike the situation in America where the private sphere still has a strong public character. "

May be relative to Europe this is true---but there is no doubt that the Left is doing the same thing here with some success. By banning public expressions of Christianity, such as Christmas, and the Judeo-Christian tradition, such as the 10 Commandments---the Left is weakening religion in our society. Even as a Jew, I wanna bring back public Christmas in America. It is part of America, we need it, it does not offend me.


6 posted on 05/24/2006 6:31:35 PM PDT by strategofr (H-mentor:"pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it"Hillary's Secret War,Poe,p.198)
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To: PGalt

You're welcome. I'm glad you enjoyed it. The author has hit upon the truth.


7 posted on 05/24/2006 6:33:42 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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The EU idea is doomed. It didn't work as Soviet Union, bunch of countries tied together with idiotic beraucracy has little chance. Make room for some guest workers.


8 posted on 05/24/2006 6:36:03 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (ffffFReeeePeee!)
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To: strategofr
In this article, Pera quotes an excerpt from something he wrote in collaboration with Cardinal Ratzinger a couple of years ago. I think he and the Pope are probably pretty much in agreement.

I would also suggest that the separation of Church and State was not intended to expel religiosity from the State either. Church control, yes, but not religion itself, as the ACLU and the secularists spin it.

9 posted on 05/24/2006 6:52:18 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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"The EU idea is doomed."

I tend to agree with you. I wonder if the CFR's plan to unite Mexico, the U.S., and Canada in a similar arrangement was supposed to be a response to the E.U.

10 posted on 05/24/2006 6:54:37 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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We have become a nations seperate entities. Society has broken down into splinter groups with each group only looking out for what's best for them. Universal truth (religion)is mocked and ridiculed.

It's only been 40 years since the sexual revolution, led by gays and lesbians that the country has been in a downward spiral, spiritually and morally. Without morals humans become no better than animals. The anything goes mentality has led to the breakup of the nuclear family and once the family breaks down it leaves people not caring about the future and only about their own selves.
11 posted on 05/24/2006 7:16:04 PM PDT by John Lenin
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["My answer is no. Europe cannot. Unless Europe rapidly regains confidence in its principles, and understands that they apply not only to Europe but to everyone, because they confer dignity and hospitality to all, it will become irrelevant on the world stage. If that day comes, all of us will have lost, because our great civilisation will have been transferred elsewhere."]

And, so where is "our great civilisation" going to be "transferred elsewhere" to? (Antarctica?)

In short, I think the author is being overly pessimistic.
12 posted on 05/24/2006 7:24:28 PM PDT by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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"The anything goes mentality has led to the breakup of the nuclear family and once the family breaks down it leaves people not caring about the future and only about their own selves."

Very true. Ironically, even though the left has done everything in its power to break up the traditional family, it knows that the Middle Class has rejected all that it stands for and thus it has made "winning over the middle class" the major focus of the upcoming campaign season.

13 posted on 05/24/2006 7:25:59 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Eurabia, perhaps? China? Iran? South America?

I don't think the author is pessimistic. I think he is realistic. If you are more optimistic, please explain where your optimimism comes from.

14 posted on 05/24/2006 7:31:11 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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optimimism=optimism


15 posted on 05/24/2006 7:32:14 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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You might be interested in this.


16 posted on 05/24/2006 7:33:47 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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One wonders where the impetus could come from for revitalization. Their political and academic institutions are all so ingrown. They just produce clones.


17 posted on 05/24/2006 7:52:07 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
And, so where is "our great civilisation" going to be "transferred elsewhere" to? (Antarctica?)

To which ever country picks up the torch that Europe is tired of carrying. There are clearly candidates to play that role other than Antarctica.

18 posted on 05/24/2006 7:52:40 PM PDT by stripes1776
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Europe was at a crossroads 20 years ago..they are too far down the path towards destruction to turn it around.


19 posted on 05/24/2006 7:54:43 PM PDT by georgia2006
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"One wonders where the impetus could come from for revitalization."

I'm afraid to suggest possibilities. I don't think it would be pretty.

20 posted on 05/24/2006 7:57:34 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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