2002 Document: Chemical Material Hidden Underground (Translation)

Pentagon/FMSO website Iraqi Pre-War documents ^ | June 2 2006 | jveritas

[Anti-Bubba182]

Good point. I supposed it it too much to hope that the US will look into this and search for the material.

[CDB]

Yep. What disgusting bozos they are: "Fake AND Inaccurate."

[avacado]

--- What is strange is that they would bury it in Sunni territory? ---

From my understanding the Sunnis were Saddam's puppets. They made up most of his Republican Guard and were well subsidized. This is one of the reasons that the bloody insurgency in mostly made up of Sunnis. They had to give up a very cushy life under Saddam.

[avacado]

--- Good point. I supposed it it too much to hope that the US will look into this and search for the material. ---

We are not going to wait for that. Anyone who is anybody at Camp Anaconda in the Sunni Triangle will know about this. We will lead the charge on this one.

APOs and names are being gathered as we speak.

[Anti-Bubba182]

Cool! Thinking on this some more, they took a lot of trouble to bury this and the use of the concrete and reports of an odor makes me think it may part of a chemical weapon.

I hope they find EMPTA(Most important ingredient of the Iraqi version of VX gas.) If what was burried was EMPTA, that by itself amounts to a WMD. Clinton ordered a cruise missle attack on a Sudanese pharmacutical plant based on intelligence the plant made EMPTA. There is little published on EMPTA but I am guessing it is difficult and expensive to make. Also, VX gas would be the deadliest WMD weapon Iraq was know to have. If it could be hidden and saved, it would be a prime choice.

[avacado]

Good post on the EMPTA info! I did not know all that.

The best I can tell about this concrete burial is that it is near the quarry of the area of the bunkers that were found but not the bunkers themselves. The bunkers were found in the Karma area at a quarry out away from homes. The concrete burial was also in the Karma area around, or in, the quarry but near some homes.

Somewhere around that quarry is a big huge block of cement buried underground and it has something of high interest in it.

This translated document by jveritas has legs.

[Das Outsider]

I have to say it, J: You are the man! I can vigorously disagree with you on other issues, but you've really done us a great service. Thank you so much for making this information available.

[Marine_Uncle]

Good show jveritas. Yea. These activities where going on for a long time. I remember reading articles back in 2004 where school kids where dismissed early from school. Next day upon return, they found their playground area, no longer contained just a grassy field area set aside for playing at break time, but was now a large concrete slab.
They where hidding stuff in the ground, dumping it into the rivers and canal system and I would not be a bit surprise into some of the land made lakes in central Iraq.
Thanks yet again for a further addition to the PRE-WAR DOCS database.
One only has to imagine how large an area of remote desert we find in al Anbar province. Heaven knows what is buried out some 100 plus miles to the west, in the Syrian Desert of Iraq.

[Chickenhawk Warmonger]

Thank you jveritas! You are a great American!

[Enchante]

Great find, once again! In addition to pressing for media and military follow-up on these documents, I think any Freepers who have any intel/military contacts should send them names of Iraqi officers, scientists, and bureaucrats who appear in these memos -- especially those who are authors of key memos. Have any/all of these people even been interviewed by coalition intel officers?

For instance, this memo was written by a "Moohsen Abdel Karim Mahmood" who presumably may know a great deal more than just what appears in one memo. Did any of the teams working for Kay or Duelfer ever locate him? How many such Iraqis are out there who have all kinds of relevant knowledge, and has the relevant HUMINT ever been pursued???

I fear that little or nothing will happen at this late date, when the Kay/Duelfer groups have long ago been disbanded, but maybe we can light a fire under someone, and get them to realize that these documents reveal all sorts of names and info that need to be pursued vigorously!!

[Calpernia]

>>>"Somewhere around that quarry is a big huge block of cement buried underground"

>>>Could it simply be a new twist on ancient burial?

Hey! I found it!

Just being a wise guy. That is really the new Apple building in Manhattan.

[jveritas]

I am afraid that the Iraq Survey Group (Kay then Dufler) ended their mission very early and they reach the conclusions about WMD very prematurely.

[jveritas]

Agreed 100%.

[jveritas]

Thank you CW.

[Shelayne]

Fantastic find! Great work, J! :^)

[jveritas]

Thanks Das, just doing my little duty.

[jveritas]

Anytime :)

[Das Outsider]

Thanks Das, just doing my little duty.

Your "little duty" is a lot bigger than you think, my friend. I'm going to do all that I can to get the documents that you've translated out there. Without the research of Richard Miniter and yourself, I would have just gone along with the O'Reillys and such, assuming we were wrong in our original motive for going into Iraq. You've done something that so many of us civilians would love to be able to do. Thanks again!