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The cheap labor lobby manipulates public opinion with phoney poll results. Again.
1 posted on 06/15/2006 7:13:09 AM PDT by RKV
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By 50%-33%, the survey shows, Americans support the views expressed by President Bush and also by businesses, Hispanics and Democratic leaders: that steps to strengthen border security should be combined with a guest-worker program for prospective immigrants and those who have been in the U.S. for at least two years. Yet a 44% plurality of conservatives back an agenda combining border security and deportation of illegal immigrants -- making it difficult for Republican politicians to embrace the majority opinion.

On immigration, President Bush "is where the American public is," says Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who helps conduct the Journal/NBC survey. "The difficulty is, the base of the Republican Party is marching in the other direction."

Moreover, conservatives are disproportionately likely to say immigration will be important to their vote. Among Americans calling immigration a top-tier issue, 72% say they are more likely to back a candidate seeking a fence along the Mexican border, while just 37% say they are more likely to support one who favors a guest-worker program.

Mr. Hart's Republican counterpart, Bill McInturff, adds that the guidance Republican lawmakers will take from the findings is "don't blink" from the tough border-security position staked out by the House in negotiations with the more-moderate Senate. Yet that strategy could prove self-defeating, if it sinks prospects for a compromise, because the poll also shows that conservatives will be most upset if Congress doesn't act. The survey of 1,002 adults, conducted June 9-12, has a margin for error of 3.1 percentage points.

Republicans and Mr. Bush are both ill-positioned to suffer further political setbacks. The poll, conducted before Bush adviser Karl Rove was cleared of potential charges in the Central Intelligence Agency leak case but after U.S. forces killed Iraq's al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi, showed Mr. Bush's overall job-approval rating essentially unchanged at 37%.

Optimism about the war edged up slightly, with 53% of Americans saying that Mr. Zarqawi's death would improve the situation in Iraq at least a little. But Americans no longer share the president's assertion that "I made the right decision" to go to war in the first place. A 53% majority calls attacking Iraq "the wrong decision," while 41% side with Mr. Bush.

A 61% majority called things in America "off on the wrong track," more than twice the 27% who said things are headed in the right direction." Approval of Congress remained at an abysmal level -- 23% -- while Americans sided with Democrats on most opinion measures. By 49%-38%, respondents said they want Democrats rather than Republicans to control Congress after November's elections.

The contours of individual congressional districts make it difficult for Democrats to translate such advantages into the 15 seats they need to recapture control of the House; Democrats must gain six seats to regain a Senate majority. But the poll suggests that Republicans' 2006 woes are both broad and deep.

By 51%-36%, Americans say they worry less about a different Democratic direction than about the possibility that Republicans remain in power and keep the same policies. And they prefer Democrats by a wide margin on issues such as health care, gasoline prices and the economy, while traditional Republican advantages on values and terrorism have shrunk.

Five months before Election Day, Democrats also enjoy an edge on voter intensity. Some 60% of self-described Democrats expressed a very high level of interest in fall elections, compared with 52% of self-described Republicans.

One early source of solace for the president's party is that such a differential didn't fuel outsize Democratic turnout in last week's special House election in California won by Republican Brian Bilbray. In part, that may be because neither of America's main political parties currently enjoys a good reputation. While the Republican Party is viewed negatively by 47%-34%, so is the Democratic Party by 39%-35%.
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Even among Americans earning more than $75,000 a year, just one-third embrace the positive view. The top economic concerns cited by respondents: health-care and education costs, gas prices, the federal budget deficit and inflation.

Mr. Bush has fared better in the debate over immigration, which now trails only the Iraq war as a top-priority national issue for voters as a whole. Among Republicans, it outranks even Iraq in importance.

The survey indicates that Mr. Bush has achieved his goal of "a civil debate" on the issue, despite the cultural, social and economic passions aroused by the presence of 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. In December, Americans by 53%-37% said immigration hurts the country more than it helps.

Today, despite predictions of a backlash from demonstrations this spring demanding immigrants' rights, the public is more evenly split. Some 44% say immigration helps the country, while 45% say it hurts.

Moreover, Americans in all regions of the country back the approach supported by Mr. Bush and embodied in recent Senate legislation calling for a 370-mile fence on parts of the Mexican border and a guest-worker program. Conservatives -- almost alone among age, income and demographic categories -- prefer the House approach of building 700 miles of fencing and deporting illegal immigrants.


2 posted on 06/15/2006 7:13:23 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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There's a whole lot o' nuthin' in that article....

LOL


3 posted on 06/15/2006 7:14:44 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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"On immigration, President Bush "is where the American public is," says Democratic pollster Peter Hart, who helps conduct the Journal/NBC survey."

Not even remotely true.


4 posted on 06/15/2006 7:14:58 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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Time to let the House members know how we feel, again. Plan to drop a letter off at my Congressman's district office later today.


6 posted on 06/15/2006 7:15:56 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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Americans appear to be drawing closer to his view on the immigration debate.
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Absolute stinking bull excrement. What is this lying writer getting out of this?? More media lies in support of the left and Bush's treasonous immigration desires.


9 posted on 06/15/2006 7:17:39 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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The pro business at any cost WSJ strikes again.


10 posted on 06/15/2006 7:18:37 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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They sure as hell didn't ask ME.....


11 posted on 06/15/2006 7:20:22 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Zarqawi died, liberals cried....)
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By 50%-33%, the survey shows, Americans support the views expressed by President Bush and also by businesses, Hispanics and Democratic leaders Mike Pence : that steps to strengthen border security should be combined with a guest-worker program for prospective immigrants and those who have been in the U.S. for at least two years.

A guest worker program, as described by Mike Pence is one thing. when Democrats and the President say guest worker, that usually means amnesty. I would suggest that the Mike Pence position is what most Americans favor, and that position is what is described in this bogus article.

13 posted on 06/15/2006 7:21:55 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte (I hereby re-christen the Republican Party as "The Flaccid Party")
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Add this to the list of things that have gone right lately for President Bush: Americans appear to be drawing closer to his view on the immigration debate.

The Wall Street Journal isn't worthy of lining birdcages.

14 posted on 06/15/2006 7:22:09 AM PDT by shekkian
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WSJ becoming the BSJ on this issue.
15 posted on 06/15/2006 7:22:50 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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(Public Warms to Bush Immigration Stance)



So says a publication from the open borders lobby that has supported the Bush policy from the beginning.


16 posted on 06/15/2006 7:24:00 AM PDT by A Troop 1-14 Cav (Jeremiah 29:13, What are you hunting for?)
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Total BS.


18 posted on 06/15/2006 7:29:07 AM PDT by maxter
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Public Warms to Bush Immigration Stance

As my late granny would've said: Bushwah!!

20 posted on 06/15/2006 7:31:32 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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Many of the WSJ editorials are right on the money but they are dead-wrong on immigration. And I don't care for the way they label anyone opposed to open borders as a nativist or protectionist. Well I think of them as Country Club Republicans which is exactly what they are!


23 posted on 06/15/2006 7:37:28 AM PDT by Menehune56 (Oderint Dum Metuant (Let them hate, so long as they fear - Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)))
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Yah! Consider the source, the WSJ, champion of cheap labor.


24 posted on 06/15/2006 7:38:32 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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This is exactly what the WS and the Washington elite are hoping for. The sheeple will eventually get tired of the story and move on. I hope that does not happen. Remember this -- Last year Parkland hospital in Dallas, TX delivered 10,500+ babies to illegals at a cost of 50+ million taxpayer dollars. That is one hospital, one city...It is coming to a town near you unless we stand united and take back our beautiful America.


26 posted on 06/15/2006 7:42:55 AM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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Someone let Busby know that the public is warming up to the President's illegal alien proposal. LOL! California win seen as rebuff of illegals
28 posted on 06/15/2006 7:50:35 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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All polls are bogus, but hopefully the anti-Bush crowd will knock off their constant chorus of "every poll shows Americans reject Bush's immigration stance." It just isn't true, and more importantly, doesn't matter when you understand how worthless polls really are.
31 posted on 06/15/2006 8:10:50 AM PDT by Rokke
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The WSJ has become as bad as the Dim's with their lie's and b.s.

If anything I think American's are hardened to the fact of closing the southern border... what do I know?

Signed:
Lowly Serf


32 posted on 06/15/2006 8:15:05 AM PDT by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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hmm the unofficial polls I have been running (i.e. simply talking to people across the country) indicates exactly the opposite.

It's getting worse for the President, not better.


33 posted on 06/15/2006 8:16:28 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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