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Public Warms to Bush Immigration Stance
Wall Street Journal ^ | 15 June 2006 | John Harwood

Posted on 06/15/2006 7:13:06 AM PDT by RKV

Add this to the list of things that have gone right lately for President Bush: Americans appear to be drawing closer to his view on the immigration debate.

But that hasn't alleviated the squeeze on Republican candidates in the fall elections. A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows that the party's conservative electoral base remains at odds with broader public opinion on the issue, including sentiment of the nation's swelling Latino population.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; bushamnesty; bushbotpoll; cira; goodnews; hr4437; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationplan; invasionusa; openborderslobby; propaganda
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To: RKV
Send another brick.

Have to do it ourselves, though these guys have begun Phase II :)

www.send-a-brick.com

21 posted on 06/15/2006 7:33:25 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RKV
"Send another brick."

Via "Air Borne" Delivery?
22 posted on 06/15/2006 7:35:56 AM PDT by Excellence (Since November 6, 1998)
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To: RKV

Many of the WSJ editorials are right on the money but they are dead-wrong on immigration. And I don't care for the way they label anyone opposed to open borders as a nativist or protectionist. Well I think of them as Country Club Republicans which is exactly what they are!


23 posted on 06/15/2006 7:37:28 AM PDT by Menehune56 (Oderint Dum Metuant (Let them hate, so long as they fear - Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC)))
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To: RKV

Yah! Consider the source, the WSJ, champion of cheap labor.


24 posted on 06/15/2006 7:38:32 AM PDT by jackieaxe (Democrats are mired in a culture of screwing English speaking, taxpaying, law abiding citizens!)
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To: Bikers4Bush

You got that right. Ain't no way the American public wants tens of thousands of illegals in this country.


25 posted on 06/15/2006 7:39:25 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: RKV

This is exactly what the WS and the Washington elite are hoping for. The sheeple will eventually get tired of the story and move on. I hope that does not happen. Remember this -- Last year Parkland hospital in Dallas, TX delivered 10,500+ babies to illegals at a cost of 50+ million taxpayer dollars. That is one hospital, one city...It is coming to a town near you unless we stand united and take back our beautiful America.


26 posted on 06/15/2006 7:42:55 AM PDT by devane617 (It's McCain and a Rat -- Now what?)
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To: RKV
Someone let Busby know that the public is warming up to the President's illegal alien proposal. LOL! California win seen as rebuff of illegals
28 posted on 06/15/2006 7:50:35 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: TonyRo76

See #28, and take great heart from it. The American people aren't as stupid as the elites believe.


29 posted on 06/15/2006 7:52:54 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Sunshine Sister

That`s the way to win,attack you friends. We will not be able to protect our borders and stop futher illegals if we won`t work with those that aren`t 100% in lock step on this issue. All this "holding our breath till we turn blue" unless we get our way is going to prevent stopping more illegals, divide our party, and elect Rats.
Time to grow up and make a deal that can work.


30 posted on 06/15/2006 8:00:11 AM PDT by bybybill (`IF THE RATS WIN, WE LOSE)
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To: RKV
All polls are bogus, but hopefully the anti-Bush crowd will knock off their constant chorus of "every poll shows Americans reject Bush's immigration stance." It just isn't true, and more importantly, doesn't matter when you understand how worthless polls really are.
31 posted on 06/15/2006 8:10:50 AM PDT by Rokke
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To: RKV

The WSJ has become as bad as the Dim's with their lie's and b.s.

If anything I think American's are hardened to the fact of closing the southern border... what do I know?

Signed:
Lowly Serf


32 posted on 06/15/2006 8:15:05 AM PDT by mr_hammer (They have eyes, but do not see . . .)
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To: RKV

hmm the unofficial polls I have been running (i.e. simply talking to people across the country) indicates exactly the opposite.

It's getting worse for the President, not better.


33 posted on 06/15/2006 8:16:28 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: RKV

Immigration + Pres. Bush= bullshit.


34 posted on 06/15/2006 8:27:59 AM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: RKV

Lies from the elitist WSJ. They want cheap labor and cheap household help.


35 posted on 06/15/2006 8:32:16 AM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: bybybill
No plan can be acceptable unless it effectively seals the Mexican border, so that the Border Patrol can apprehend and return at least 90% of illegal crossers. The second phase is to create sufficient incentives to cause a large portion of the existing illegal population to return to their home countries. The guest worker program does not do that, nor do the proposals to have existing illegals pay a fine. Many of the illegals paid money to "coyotes" to enter the country in the first place. A fine is just another overhead cost that enables the illegal to earn $10-12 an hour in the construction trade, vs. $1-2 in Mexico or even less in the rest of Latin America.

Any program that places the existing 12-20 million illegals on a path to citizenship will have the effect of electing Democrats. Hispanics, Cubans excepted, vote heavily Democratic because the party promises more and better welfare and social services benefits. If most of the 12-20 million illegals become citizens, we are looking at possibly 6-10 million voters who will be reliably (80%+) Democrats. The effect on domestic politics will be enormous. It will ensure Democratic dominance of Congress for decades and Democrats in the White House, in effect the same configuration that led to the New Deal and the Great Society.

Consider as well that one of the effects of the 1986 amnesty was the leftward movement of California politics. Prior to 1992, California was a bellwether of American politics, with the state producing numerous Republican leaders like William Knowland, Richard Nixon, S.I. Hayakawa, and Ronald Reagan. The effect of naturalized Hispanics into the California electorate moved California politics to the left, possibly irreversibly. In the last two Presidential elections, the GOP wrote off the Golden State as a lost cause. Consider that we are dealing with larger numbers in 2006 (12-20 million) vs. the number in 1986 (3 million). It is not inconceivable that Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Texas, Florida, and even Oklahoma and Georgia may move to the left by 2020 given the impact of newly enfranchised former illegals.

The bottom line is that the RINOs, the Bushbots, and the open borders advocates are the ones who would consign the Republican Party to permanent minority status. This is one issue where compromise is not an option.

36 posted on 06/15/2006 8:34:19 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Unam Sanctam

After the Simpson-Mazzoli (sp?) fiasco during the Reagan administration, we want an emphasis on enforcement, rather than amnesty. By the way, we do have an existing program for guest workers don't we?


40 posted on 06/15/2006 9:03:19 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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