(Summary of sci-fi classic: an obscure monestary is dedicated to figuring out all the names of God, at which point the universe will end. Hiring some computer programmers to help, the job is completed rather quickly.)
Posted on 06/22/2006 9:48:36 PM PDT by paulat
Darn it!
Either St Paul is wrong and made the New Testament a partial lie
Oh no! I like Paul! Certainly not a good option.
or
Or?
you are wrong.
Ack! Don't like that one either.
Hmm...let me think. I'll go with the third option, which is I agree with Paul, and we're both right, and I don't give a rat's behind what you think.
Works for me.
Indeed!
What I think is certainly inconsequential in the eternal scheme of things.
However, one of the things I think is that doctrines of men are not highly rated by God.
...As he sat on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately, saying, "Tell us, when will these things be? What is the sign of your coming, and of the end of the age?"...
... Jesus answered them, "Be careful that no one leads you astray...
...But no one knows of that day and hour, not even the angels of heaven, but my Father only...
...Therefore also be ready, for in an hour that you don't expect, the Son of Man will come...
...the lord of that servant will come in a day when he doesn't expect it, and in an hour when he doesn't know it,...
In one single chapter Matthew 24, Jesus tells us several times the hour is not known to anyone and that it will be at a time one does not expect. Key words are Not Known and Not Expect. He tells us that, so all these pastors etc. running around thinking they can 'speed up' His return are leading people astray should be considered with great caution.
Revelations discusses the problems God has with the churches/religions/nations in Chapter 2-3.
1 Thessalonians 5
1 Now, brothers, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, "Peace and safety," destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape. 4 But you, brothers, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.
Rosh HaShanah
Yet another name for Rosh HaShanah is Yom HaKeseh, "The Day of the Hiding" or "the Hidden Day." The term keseh or keceh is derived from the Hebrew root kacah, which means to "conceal, cover, or hide." Every day during the month of Elul, a trumpet is blown to warn the people to turn back to G-d, except for the thirtieth day of Elul, the day preceding Rosh HaShanah. On that day the trumpet is not blown, and is therefore silent. This is because much about Rosh HaShanah is concealed and shrouded in mystery. The mystical aspect of Rosh HaShanah is indicated in Scripture: "Sound the shofar on the New Moon, in concealment of the day of our festival" (Psalm [Tehillim] 81:3). Satan, the accuser, is not to be given notice about the arrival of Rosh HaShanah, the Day of Judgment.
Rosh HaShanah is called Yom HaKeseh, or the Day of the Hiding, because it was hidden from satan (Ha satan), the adversary. The Bible says that satan comes to rob and to steal (John [Yochanan] 10:10, and to confuse (1 Corinthians 14:33). Because it is the Day of Judgment, it is symbolically hidden from satan (satan did not know and understand the plan of the cross [tree], First Corinthians 2:7-8). This was hidden from him as well. Believers never said when the day of Rosh HaShanah was; they simply said, "Of that day and hour no one knows, only the Father."
One of the reasons most often given to disclaim that the resurrection of the dead and the catching away of the believers is on Rosh HaShanah is the statement given by Yeshua in Matthew (Mattityahu) 24:36, as it is written, "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but My Father only." Because Rosh HaShanah was understood to be the hidden day, this statement by Yeshua is actually an idiom for Rosh Hashanah. Thus it should be given as proof that He was speaking of Rosh HaShanah because Rosh HaShanah is the only day in the whole year that was referred to as the hidden day or the day that no man knew.
http://www.hebroots.com/chap7.html
Great page
The phrase ‘But of that day and hour knoweth no man’ fits perfectly into a two day festival. And anywhere in the world it’s one of two days, so it’s true that I don’t know the day or hour, but I do know it’s during Rosh HaShanah.
Yep, I see it that way too. What happened in the day's of Noah? Who remained behind and who died?
It happened at a party, and the revelers were suprised when the "good stuff" came out only when the rest of it ran out.
Yeah, it was "good stuff"...cause it tasted so good, cause Jesus made it himself.
Most people? neither.
Most people? Are going to Hell anyway, so I wouldn't follow anyone's example.
(Summary of sci-fi classic: an obscure monestary is dedicated to figuring out all the names of God, at which point the universe will end. Hiring some computer programmers to help, the job is completed rather quickly.)
That's it, I'm selling my house and going to live in a compound.
Well, you can run, but you cannot hide!
Every week in the Synagogue a different section of the Torah and Prophets are read. When the New Moon falls out on a Sunday this section of the Prophets is read.
1 Samuel 20
18 Then Jonathan said to David, “Tomorrow is the New Moon; and you will be missed, because your seat will be empty.
19 And when you have stayed three days, go down quickly and come to the place where you hid on the day of the deed; and remain by the stone Ezel. 20 Then I will shoot three arrows to the side, as though I shot at a target; 21 and there I will send a lad, saying, ‘Go, find the arrows.’ If I expressly say to the lad, ‘Look, the arrows are on this side of you; get them and come’—then, as the LORD lives, there is safety for you and no harm. 22 But if I say thus to the young man, ‘Look, the arrows are beyond you’—go your way, for the LORD has sent you away. 23 And as for the matter which you and I have spoken of, indeed the LORD be between you and me forever.”
24 Then David hid in the field. And when the New Moon had come, the king sat down to eat the feast. 25 Now the king sat on his seat, as at other times, on a seat by the wall. And Jonathan arose, and Abner sat by Saul’s side, but David’s place was empty. 26 Nevertheless Saul did not say anything that day, for he thought, “Something has happened to him; he is unclean, surely he is unclean.” 27 And it happened the next day, the second day of the month, that David’s place was empty. And Saul said to Jonathan his son, “Why has the son of Jesse not come to eat, either yesterday or today?”
28 So Jonathan answered Saul, “David earnestly asked permission of me to go to Bethlehem. 29 And he said, ‘Please let me go, for our family has a sacrifice in the city, and my brother has commanded me to be there. And now, if I have found favor in your eyes, please let me get away and see my brothers.’ Therefore he has not come to the king’s table.”
30 Then Saul’s anger was aroused against Jonathan, and he said to him, “You son of a perverse, rebellious woman! Do I not know that you have chosen the son of Jesse to your own shame and to the shame of your mother’s nakedness? 31 For as long as the son of Jesse lives on the earth, you shall not be established, nor your kingdom. Now therefore, send and bring him to me, for he shall surely die.” 32 And Jonathan answered Saul his father, and said to him, “Why should he be killed? What has he done?” 33 Then Saul cast a spear at him to kill him, by which Jonathan knew that it was determined by his father to kill David.
34 So Jonathan arose from the table in fierce anger, and ate no food the second day of the month, for he was grieved for David, because his father had treated him shamefully.
35 And so it was, in the morning, that Jonathan went out into the field at the time appointed with David, and a little lad was with him. 36 Then he said to his lad, “Now run, find the arrows which I shoot.” As the lad ran, he shot an arrow beyond him. 37 When the lad had come to the place where the arrow was which Jonathan had shot, Jonathan cried out after the lad and said, “Is not the arrow beyond you?” 38 And Jonathan cried out after the lad, “Make haste, hurry, do not delay!” So Jonathan’s lad gathered up the arrows and came back to his master. 39 But the lad did not know anything. Only Jonathan and David knew of the matter. 40 Then Jonathan gave his weapons to his lad, and said to him, “Go, carry them to the city.”
41 As soon as the lad had gone, David arose from a place toward the south, fell on his face to the ground, and bowed down three times. And they kissed one another; and they wept together, but David more so. 42 Then Jonathan said to David, “Go in peace, since we have both sworn in the name of the LORD, saying, ‘May the LORD be between you and me, and between your descendants and my descendants, forever.’” So he arose and departed, and Jonathan went into the city.
Ezel / Departure
Check out this study on Rosh Chodesh / New Moon
As always, there's lots more...
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