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Grappling with Gangs [South Texas Pistoleros]
The Monitor ^ | June 25,2006 | Andres R. Martinez

Posted on 06/25/2006 7:42:45 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch

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"The Villarreals are the best example of the trend of “transnational, violent” street gangs that are becoming increasingly hard to combat because they operate on both sides of the border."
1 posted on 06/25/2006 7:42:49 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
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To: SwinneySwitch

Strip them of their citizenship, and send them packing south of the border. Build a wall larger than the great wall of China and put an alligator moat on both sides. That ought to solve the problem. Any more gang members located on our side of the border toss them over as well.

PROBLEM SOLVED. As long as we are willing to put up with these people who call themselves human beings, they will be willing to congregate and cause us all grief.

(ok, they aren't all from Mexico, but most of them are).


2 posted on 06/25/2006 7:47:30 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: LongElegantLegs; radar101; RamingtonStall; engrpat; HamiltonFan; Draco; TexasCajun; ...

Pistoleros Ping!


3 posted on 06/25/2006 7:49:53 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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" They are highly mobile, organized criminals who also happen to be illegal aliens, and Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials." said."

There, probably a little more accurate.

4 posted on 06/25/2006 7:52:25 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: television is just wrong

Could always put a bounty on the strays once the invasion is stopped.


5 posted on 06/25/2006 7:56:36 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: SwinneySwitch

I still think a tall electrified fence. Well actually two electrified fences with a 30 foot span between them will eliminate many of the drug problems. Plus, tough law enforcement on gangs. Whatever it takes.


6 posted on 06/25/2006 7:57:51 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me)
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To: Enterprise; All

Talk amongst yourselves, going to church.


7 posted on 06/25/2006 7:59:55 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Terroristas-beyond your expectations!)
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To: ncountylee

well they might have enough fear in them to straighten up and stop causing problems too. So the problem could end. As long as we continue to have grafitti removal programs and keep covering up their crimes, we are willing to just tolerate their juvenile criminal behavior.

The minute we stand up as the great giant country we are and say we have no tolerance for this crap, we will first see how big the problem really is, then we deal with it, it will shrink immensely.


8 posted on 06/25/2006 8:01:16 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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Statement: "Incarcerating these gang members in the United States will only help them spread..."

Response: Jail does not work. Deportation does not work.

Question: Is organized government bankrupt?

9 posted on 06/25/2006 8:06:40 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SwinneySwitch
I don't know how "organized" the Mexican gangs are that have moved into my southern California hometown, but their presence has caused increased crime and they have all but taken over once-peaceful neighborhoods, to the point that lifetime residents don't dare drive through there anymore.

Shootings, rapes, muggings, carjacking and home theft are common here now since this invasion has allowed to continue.

No matter how much the politicians try to tell us that "they're only here to work", their words ring hollow and absolutely untrue when ordinary Americans are forced to live with the mess.

11 posted on 06/25/2006 8:29:09 AM PDT by janetgreen
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Ping!


12 posted on 06/25/2006 8:33:03 AM PDT by HiJinx (Have you hugged a soldier today? Try it, you'll like it.)
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To: SwinneySwitch

Say a prayer or two for our country...


13 posted on 06/25/2006 8:34:09 AM PDT by HiJinx (Have you hugged a soldier today? Try it, you'll like it.)
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I have known for several years Pistoleros in the Mid-South area and on occasions have ridden with them and they certainly don't fit in this category.

That's a very interesting comment. I wonder, how do you square the Pistoleros you know with the ones in this article? Is it a matter of recency? Geography? Or is the term just too loosely defined?

14 posted on 06/25/2006 8:37:04 AM PDT by HiJinx (Have you hugged a soldier today? Try it, you'll like it.)
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They are highly mobile, organized criminals who also happen to be illegal aliens, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials said.

Can't be. No way. Don't buy it.

Dubya says illegals are all "hard working, law abiding, good people". Heck, even some Freepers unequivocally state that they're all here only to pick grapes and other produce in order to save us lazy Americans from starving to death (you know who you are).

Criminal gang members?!? C'mon - getouttahere.



Bwaahahaha!!!
I crack me up

15 posted on 06/25/2006 8:44:49 AM PDT by Condor51 (Better to fight for something than live for nothing - Gen. George S. Patton)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
Jail does not work. Deportation does not work.

Execution tends to work.

When deporting one, do full fingerprint/retina-print/DNA on him. If caught back in the US, make him subject to summary execution

17 posted on 06/25/2006 8:58:20 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: janetgreen

here is how orgnized they are in LA,

Mexican drug cartels take over U.S. cities :

"They purchased restaurants, used-car lots, auto-body shops and other small businesses. One of their purposes was to use these businesses for money-laundering operations. Once established in their community, these cartel-financed business owners ran for city council and other local offices. Over time, they were able to buy votes and influence in an effort to take over the management of the town. They wanted to create a comfort zone from which they could operate without interference from local law enforcement."

...an example, L.A. County city of Bell Gardens – corrupt elected officials under the influence of drug lords actually tried to shut down the police department.
City officials who would not cooperate with the Mexican-born city manager were forced out of office," he writes. "Eventually, the L.A. County attorney's office moved in, and the city manager was prosecuted on charges of corruption. Unfortunately, Bell Gardens was only the tip of the iceberg. Other Los Angeles suburbs – including Huntington Park, Lynwood and Southgate – became targets for the cartels."

...there are entire cities (in LA county) under the virtual control of Mexican criminal street gangs and their associated businesses, in some cases, making it dangerous for county, state and national law enforcement officers to venture in and rendering any interdepartmental cooperation impossible.


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18 posted on 06/25/2006 9:36:14 AM PDT by seastay
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there are entire cities (in LA county) under the virtual control of Mexican criminal street gangs

L.A. = "sanctuary city". Those towns you mentioned (and others) aren't safe to drive through. Even Orange County has been infected now.

We're being colonized with the aid of our own government, from the TOP on down. A sad state of affairs for the United States.

If this isn't enough to make people realize that NEW American leadership is needed, nothing will. The "two parties" favor foreign interests, not American interests.

19 posted on 06/25/2006 9:47:16 AM PDT by janetgreen
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Shootings, rapes, muggings, carjacking and home theft are common here now since this invasion has allowed to continue.

We have areas of town and small towns around us that you just don't go to. We had some relatives awhile back visit who lived here many years ago, they couldn't believe it.

I guess noone really gets it unless you live in the middle of it and remember how it used to be.


20 posted on 06/25/2006 9:58:07 AM PDT by sheana
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