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Britain falls out of love with America [Survey for The Telegraph.]
The Telegraph (Britain) ^ | 03JUL06 | Anthony King

Posted on 07/03/2006 9:26:03 PM PDT by familyop

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To: Cobra64

I like Mad Ivan. He's my buddy and he's kewel!

Churchill and Maggie T. are OK.

But Mad Ivan has class.


61 posted on 07/03/2006 11:52:38 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Having a Kerry/Edwards bumpersticker on your car is like having "Born Loozer" tatooed on your arm.)
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To: Gunslingr3

I have a Native "North" American Friend from El Paso, Texas whose ancestors come from that area (Tigua and Ysleta). He would disagree with your statement about Mexicans coming back into "their" land as his tribe was there before the Mexicans.

Mexicans are a mix of European Spaniard and Native Central American Indian (Aztec and Mexica descent). Funny how they consider the US evil imperialists but still speak the "imperialist Spanish language".


62 posted on 07/04/2006 12:09:11 AM PDT by Rameumptom (Gen X = they killed 1 in 4 of us)
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To: familyop
This article just makes me want to say one thing to our fine British cousins;

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY!
63 posted on 07/04/2006 12:12:08 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: lafroste; All

Mad Ivan left - see his about page; got a bit miffed by the anti-Brit threads!

I would not move to America - but not because I don't like it. I do plan to holiday/vacation in the near future though.

I don't like everything about America; I don't like everything about Britain either.

A lot of people who don't like America (such as the BBC)here in the UK don't like Israel either and after that they don't like Britain or anything it stands for depending on how much to the left they are; they will tend to support our enemies - whatever they do its our fault for something we're doing at the moment (Iraq) (George Galloway anyone?)or 200 years ago whatever.

People such as this tend to be vocal and express their opinions at every opportunity as opposed to the silent majority who tend to be conservative in their outlook. The reality might be shocking - see the re-election (3 times)of Thatcher who at one point was the most unpopular prime minister since the war.


64 posted on 07/04/2006 1:29:09 AM PDT by Mac1
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To: Gunslingr3
"empire"

What empire is that?

65 posted on 07/04/2006 2:13:32 AM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Mac1
Hi Mac1, sorry to here about MadIvan leaving, quite a lot of the old Brit Fr crowd have left due to all the anti Brit threads on here.

The way some of the crowd on here react you would think that we were enemies rather than allies fighting in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

66 posted on 07/04/2006 2:14:43 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: familyop
LOL I would not get to upset over Britain's not liking Americans too much, the same poll would find Britain's with negative feelings about most if not all countries.

And as you will have to agree with me as that goes for all countries and definitely includes America.

As a user of Freerepublic for many years, I know the same negative feelings for other countries is very strong in America as well.

LOL read some of the replies on here it doesn't take much to wind people up and get a good old anti everyone except me attitude going.

Most of those polled have probably never been to America and get all there negative views from the media, just as many on this very site I have debated with have never been to Britain or Europe and get all there negative views from the media.

The media both right and left have done more to divide us than anything the Muslims can do.

Mark Steyn is a good example of this.

67 posted on 07/04/2006 2:23:27 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: skr; Rahmulus
If they fired Mark Steyn then good on them. I cant stand the chap.

All he does is play to the crowd, it might look like he is talking sense but he isn't, he just mouths a lot of cliches and sound bites that sound good because it helps to support a negative view you might hold.

68 posted on 07/04/2006 2:26:22 AM PDT by tonycavanagh
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To: familyop
Don't know the numbers, but I suspect that the number of Briton's working in, or immigrating to the USA dwarf's the numbers of U.S. citizens doing the same, and the population of Great Britain is but a fraction of the size of the U.S.A..

I have nothing but respect and admiration for the democrat state of the United Kingdom, and consider Briton's our friends (even if some may not few it's mutual) but I believe the proof is in the pudding, i.e. the numbers of immigrants or foreign workers.

Actually, to be honest, I believe this article is more a "slam" or insult to Briton's that Americans.

SFS

69 posted on 07/04/2006 2:35:35 AM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: familyop
Large majorities of Britons look down on America as "vulgar" (65 per cent) and "uncultured" (56 per cent).

English soccer fans demonstrating subtlety and refinement for the benefit of us crude Yanks.

70 posted on 07/04/2006 2:36:23 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Famous last words: "what does Ibtz mean?")
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To: Steel and Fire and Stone
Wish JimRob would add a 15 minute "edit" button; no matter how many times I "proof" my posts, I always miss something.

"more an insult to Briton's that Americans."

..should read"

"more an insult to Briton's than Americans."

71 posted on 07/04/2006 2:38:25 AM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: edpc

Yep, the world's losers hate the constant reminder of how far short they fall when measured against the American gold standard.

I hope I'm still alive when they have to measure themselves against Ind-jah.


72 posted on 07/04/2006 2:51:26 AM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Gunslingr3

>>When you have over quarter million men under arms propping up 'friendly' governments around the world you're running an empire.

You mean like Germany and the UK? Two countries in which we have a considerable military presence, for starters.


73 posted on 07/04/2006 2:54:41 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: familyop

"One in three people in the UK regularly suffers paranoid or suspicious fears, clinical psychologists have found."

(from: Paranoia 'a widespread problem')

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1659925/posts


74 posted on 07/04/2006 3:09:08 AM PDT by LRS
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To: familyop

Nothing's changed. Brits didn't think much of the colonists three hundred years ago, either. What they wanted was America's wealth...lumber, furs, etc., and they considered the colonists vulgar, crass, arrogant, and stupid. The UK (and the EU), still wants to use the US as a mule. Happy Independence Day! Today is a really big poke in the eye to the UK!


75 posted on 07/04/2006 3:16:42 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Rokke

What really makes them mad is the fact that we don't care what they or any other country thinks of us and we make no bones about it. They can't stand being ignored.


76 posted on 07/04/2006 3:22:59 AM PDT by hershey
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To: IIntense

We get defensive because the UN and Liberals want to take over the US. We'd live under international law...and we got a taste of that last week from the Supreme Court...we'd pay taxes to the UN, every last man jack like it or not...we'd supply the armies and munitions needed for UN military excursions. The EU -- France, Belgium, et al (our betters), would do the thinking for us because they're cultured and smart. All the things we're not. Nothing's changed in all these years. If a vote were held tomorrow, we'd still take up arms against the king. Any king.

There's something special about the air or water in America. It changes you. 'Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness'. We take that very seriously, it's mother's milk to every American.


77 posted on 07/04/2006 3:36:25 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Gunslingr3

Mexico's 'integrating' with the US, and US policy makers are talking on TV about going down and fixing Mexico's education system...since so many Mexicans are illiterate. (When they get here, they're unskilled, most can't speak English, and are almost unemployable except for rough work.) Now they're discussing fixing Mexico's roads. This in advance of that superhighway they're ramming through. The North American Union is becoming a reality, and the Bush admin. is betting we'll absorb Mexico, not the other way around. God help us.

A few months ago, Fox suggested we 'invest in rebuilding Mexico's infrastructure' as a way of luring Mexicans home. It's extortion, of course. And there's news that their oil fields are going dry, which will blow a huge hole in their economy. Millions more will head north. The truth is our neighbor to the south is a corrupt third world country, and now we're being told we have to fix it...on their terms and our dime. So the empire will grow, even though most Americans loathe the idea. The North American Union is not what we want and not who we are.


78 posted on 07/04/2006 3:53:10 AM PDT by hershey
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To: familyop

[Britian falls out of love with America]

America got a divorce from Britian over two hundred years ago and they just now fell out of love with us? Boy, talk about holding a flame.

Happy Declaration of Divorce, everybody.


79 posted on 07/04/2006 3:56:41 AM PDT by RetSignman (New York Times.."All the news that fits our agenda")
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To: Gunslingr3

Unfortunately, with thousands of air flights a day into the US, we can't keep foreign influences out for long. The oceans aren't wide or deep enough to keep them out. We're being invaded, not just by Mexicans, but every other nation to the south, and everyone else who can get here by hook or by crook. Isolationism is a wonderful dream, but globalization (big business' greed), killed it, and I'm still in mourning.


80 posted on 07/04/2006 4:00:26 AM PDT by hershey
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