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1 posted on 07/04/2006 11:48:11 PM PDT by garbageseeker
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2 posted on 07/04/2006 11:54:32 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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3 posted on 07/04/2006 11:59:04 PM PDT by garbageseeker (It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog.”Samuel Clemmens)
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It would be useful to have testimony from medical companies, which have had to shut hospitals due to hordes of illegals jamming emergency rooms, for free care.

It would be useful to have testimony from law enforcement officials, with statistics for crimes and prison occupancy be illegals.

It would be useful to have testimony from educators about the degradation of schools' ability to move English speaking students along, one honest grade at a time.

Issa's remarks about employers is useful. I like where he says it is NOT their right to have cheap labor and profits.

It would be useful to hear testimony from border security officials about middle easterners caught at the border. (As an indicator of the huge risk to National Security).

Finally, it would be useful to hear testimony from LEGAL immigrants, that follow the laws. My mother-in-law came legally from Italy in 1947. She waited an extra year for her quota slot, and had sponsors to commit she would not be a burden on taxpayers.


11 posted on 07/05/2006 12:15:34 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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As I understand it, there are plenty of immigration control laws already on the books.

So how 'bout we just firmly enforce what we've already got for, say, a year. Then come back and evaluate and make adjustments if necessary.

IMHO, this whole controversy is smoke and mirrors to put off passing any new unneeded laws until after the Nov elections.

14 posted on 07/05/2006 12:30:30 AM PDT by upchuck (I bought a self-help tape named, "How to Handle Disappointment." I got it home & the box was empty.)
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Nothing new hear .

The President wants his global vision and big business wants cheap labor and they are going to ram this down our throats, flood our country and turn the illegals into legals whichever bill is passed no matter what the people want.

16 posted on 07/05/2006 12:43:16 AM PDT by mississippi red-neck (You will never win the war on terrorism by fighting it in Iraq and funding it in the West Bank.)
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Really? Think about it. The house needs to get senators to change their minds. How much effect do you think this show in California will have on Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein.

What the house needs is to do show Senators that there is a lot of support in their states for the house bill. That means rallies in states with RINO senators. Will they have any?

The problem is the Utah Exit polls showed that less than 10 percent of the voters in Utah cared about illegal immigration.

Consider that in Californis's 50th district a pro Amnesty position by the Demorat did not cost any Democrat votes. The Democrat got the same percentage of the vote as Kerry... And when Kerry ran illegal immigration was not on the agenda. Democrats are not interested in immigration and that leaves only some Republicans. They need more than that.

The house members say the senate is not paying attention to voters. But that defies logic. If the voters were climbing all over Senate members they would be folding. The RINOs up for reelection this year would be folding and they are not.

Remember house Majority leader Boehner on June 13th told the pro amnesty Chamber of Commerce convention he had the votes in the house to get a bill out of the conference committee. No one believes Boehner meant he had the Senate ready to fold. That leaves the house as the folding object.

That is just logical. If the senate was going to fold why would the House delay the conference committee vote until after they campaign for the House bill. If the senate was about to fold there would be no need for hearings to buck up support for the house bill.

Hastert, Tancredo and King must need to cook up some support for the house bill and they are doing it in the state most likely to fail at convincing Demorat senators.

I look for the Senate bill to pass both houses with some cosmetics to give some cover to then anti illegal immigration house members.

I don't think Boehner is faking. I think a number of House members have changed sides since the house bill passed over six months ago.

17 posted on 07/05/2006 12:47:14 AM PDT by Common Tator
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39 posted on 07/05/2006 10:07:56 AM PDT by gubamyster
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Judging by how active Pence's staff has been today, I'd say the Pence amnesty is a done deal.


46 posted on 07/05/2006 4:06:35 PM PDT by mysterio
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