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Risky titanium business
Washington Times ^ | August 3, 2006 | Thomas E. Williams Jr., Steven L. Watson and Timothy G. Rupert

Posted on 08/03/2006 11:47:46 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Without so much as a single public hearing, the Senate has adopted a bill that could radically weaken our national defense. Obscure language slipped into legislation on the Senate floor would effectively enable outsourcing to Russia the production of titanium, a strong but lightweight metal that is critical for America's military hardware -- aircraft, armored vehicles and other defense systems.

Alarmingly, the provision would enable America's ability to produce defense-grade titanium to be handed over to a single company in Russia. What's worse, the Russian government is attempting to take over the company, named VSMPO.

In other words -- and this, unfortunately, is not an exaggeration -- the Senate action could lead to a situation where the Defense Department could not build jet fighters or bombers without the Kremlin's permission. Will Russian President Vladimir Putin and his successors always agree to sell Defense the titanium it needs? Who knows? Even if the United States got its orders filled, the Kremlin would have information on every detail of the grade and quantity of titanium that the Pentagon wants to buy, and good intelligence on what weapons systems the U.S. is building. ...

Current law requires that certain critical materials used in Defense contracts -- like titanium and other important specialty metals -- must be produced in the United States. These provisions on specialty metals were adopted into law decades ago and have worked as intended, providing the United States with a reliable source of domestic titanium and other specialty metals for military applications. ...

The American titanium industry is too important to our national security to be replaced as a supplier to the Defense Department by a company targeted for takeover by the Russian government.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; chicoms; china; coldwar2; congress; globalism; govwatch; idiots; mining; nationalsecurity; putin; russia; soviets; sovietunion; titanium; trade; vsmpo
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1 posted on 08/03/2006 11:47:46 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

The law requiring the use of domestic titanium only was probably becoming a protectionist racket like so many other government subsidies. Maybe the competition will do them good. If the Russian Ti is up to snuff, what's the problem?


2 posted on 08/03/2006 11:49:37 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"Without so much as a single public hearing, the Senate has adopted a bill that could radically weaken our national defense. Obscure language slipped into legislation on the Senate floor would effectively enable outsourcing to Russia the production of titanium, a strong but lightweight metal that is critical for America's military hardware -- aircraft, armored vehicles and other defense systems."

There are two possible reasons: Treason, and selling titanium stocks short.

Senate? Probably both play a role.

3 posted on 08/03/2006 11:51:07 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: TChris

Walter Williams is not exactly known for his love of protectionism. National Security trumps free trade.


4 posted on 08/03/2006 11:51:12 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: TChris
The law requiring the use of domestic titanium only was probably becoming a protectionist racket like so many other government subsidies. Maybe the competition will do them good. If the Russian Ti is up to snuff, what's the problem?

Uh, gee, maybe because then Russia could hamstring our ability to build subs and fighters by cutting off our imports of titanium?

5 posted on 08/03/2006 11:52:06 AM PDT by dirtboy
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Uh, gee, maybe because then Russia could hamstring our ability to build subs and fighters by cutting off our imports of titanium?

Our Ti production doesn't magically disappear because other suppliers are available. I call Barbra Streisand.

6 posted on 08/03/2006 11:57:03 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What does Walter Williams have to do with this article?


7 posted on 08/03/2006 11:58:11 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Sounds like a good reason to put a mining operation on the Moon. The samples from the Sea of Tranquility show that the "soil" there can be as much as 8% Titanium. Titanium on the Moon's surface occurs primarily in the mineral ilmenite.

Here is another reference:
http://www.lunarrepublic.com/atlas/titan_map.shtml

I also believe that a large titanium deposit was exposed by the 2004 Tsunami.
8 posted on 08/03/2006 11:58:43 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: TChris

Sudden cutoff from supply due to political whim's is one of the problems. We can't always keep the Russians happy.


9 posted on 08/03/2006 12:02:16 PM PDT by TexPride
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Let's just give them the key to NORAD while we are at it ..


10 posted on 08/03/2006 12:03:11 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: TChris
Our Ti production doesn't magically disappear because other suppliers are available.

Actually, two thirds of the titanium produced in this country was used by the aerospace industry in 1998. However, I imagine that amount will drop over the next few years since Boeing is moving to composites for its aircraft.

Here is some general information on titanium production and use in this country:

http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/titanium/670399.pdf

11 posted on 08/03/2006 12:04:39 PM PDT by dirtboy
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" maybe because then Russia could hamstring our ability to build subs and fighters by cutting off our imports of titanium"

Well, if they convince China to go along with them, we won't need the titanium for subs or aircraft because we won't be able to buy the integrated circuits we need for either.

There was a time early in my engineering career where we couldn't design in ANY electronics that were from offshore sources.

That's all changed now.


12 posted on 08/03/2006 12:04:53 PM PDT by EEDUDE
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So, why not just outsource our military?

Guys, we have been down this road before as a nation. Luckily we managed to pull our heads out before it was to late in WWII, but if you are going to be sovereign, you need to be able to defend and supply yourself.
13 posted on 08/03/2006 12:06:35 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: TChris

When our manufacturers fold and the commies, er, Russkis cut us off 'cause we're beatin' on one of their friends, could that be a problem?


14 posted on 08/03/2006 12:09:37 PM PDT by Little Ray (If you want to be a martyr, we want to martyr you.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Consider Vladimir's problem...... he's broke and needs to raise some cash. He has mountains of titanium billets stockpiled since only God knows when.

He whispered in W's ear. "My eyes are blinded by the mountain of titanium. If you could take some of it off my hands I might see clearly what's happening in Iran."

W says "Vlad, all you had to do is ask. That's a problem I think I can actually help you with."

W did the right thing..... he helped a friend.


15 posted on 08/03/2006 12:10:18 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. Slay Pinch)
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To: TChris

In the late 1950s, the US needed titanium for the first generation of SR-71 spyplanes, one of which is on display at the Seattle Air and Space Museum. The US was critically short of this metal and so approached a trading company in Brazil about getting some from the Russians. The Russians were told that the Brazilians had a need for their aircraft industry and traded some agricultural commodities to Russia for the metal. We paid the Brazilians in US dollars and built the planes.


16 posted on 08/03/2006 12:11:52 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
In the late 1950s, the US needed titanium for the first generation of SR-71 spyplanes, one of which is on display at the Seattle Air and Space Museum. The US was critically short of this metal and so approached a trading company in Brazil about getting some from the Russians. The Russians were told that the Brazilians had a need for their aircraft industry and traded some agricultural commodities to Russia for the metal. We paid the Brazilians in US dollars and built the planes.

Cool story! I've seen and touched that SR-71 (I was surprised at how small it is). Nice to know more of the background.

17 posted on 08/03/2006 12:15:49 PM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

For years during the cold war the US set up dummy corporations in South Africa to purchase titanium from the Soviet union to build our own submarines.


18 posted on 08/03/2006 12:15:56 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Jacquerie

oops.


19 posted on 08/03/2006 12:16:30 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: GOP_1900AD

"Let's just give them the key to NORAD while we are at it .."

NORAD is going offline soon and will be open to public tours.

And no, I'm not kidding.


20 posted on 08/03/2006 12:16:39 PM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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