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1 posted on 09/11/2006 4:58:13 PM PDT by Paul Ross
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Ping. FYI


2 posted on 09/11/2006 4:58:41 PM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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And Iraq's Republican Guard is very formidable.
3 posted on 09/11/2006 5:00:28 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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Iran, meet the Raptor.


4 posted on 09/11/2006 5:01:09 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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I can describe the Iranian Air Force in two words: Target Drones


6 posted on 09/11/2006 5:03:32 PM PDT by JOAT
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It will certainly not hurt to take the air force seriously. There would also have to be substantial attention paid to anti-air installations. It might be over in a day, but it would be an active day.


8 posted on 09/11/2006 5:04:57 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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As has become apparent with Hezbollah, the regime in Tehran is willing to provide sophisticated weaponry to non-state actors and to sanction its use. Any attack by the U.S. or Israel, or indeed a coalition, would have to take into account increased activity on the part of Iranian proxies against both military and civil targets. These threats could range far beyond the Middle East.

Quite frankly, it would be better for the US and Isreal to
attack Iran now and then deal with these proxies as they expose themselves.

Is there a point to waiting till they become strong enough
to defeat us?


9 posted on 09/11/2006 5:05:30 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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Iran is dead meat on a hook.


11 posted on 09/11/2006 5:05:56 PM PDT by spanalot
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Don't forget the 1990 Iraqi "resupply" of MiG and Mirage aircraft when Saddam flew them to Iran at the start of Desert Storm.


14 posted on 09/11/2006 5:15:53 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
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Iran's Mix-and-Match Air Force Still May Have Bite

Don't make everyone LAUGH! Between the USAF and the IAF, the Iranian planes would have a shorter lifespan than a cockroach trying to cross Times Square during New Years Eve.

15 posted on 09/11/2006 5:42:36 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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A version of the Hawk surface-to-air missile--sometimes referred to as Sedjil--was also seen carried by one F-14. Again, the emergence of this program indicates that the air force was attempting to find a route to sustain a BVR weapons inventory for the F-14.

WHAT?????

LOL!!!!!!

16 posted on 09/11/2006 5:42:47 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty: The Pendleton 8)
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Given the range of Israeli and/or US air to ground missiles, specifically the popeye turbo II and US stealthy JASSM, of which at least 700 are available, I seriously doubt Iranian air defenses are going to be much of a problem. The main Iranian nuclear facilities, specifically Isfahan, Natanz, and the Arak heavy water plant, are in a somewhat concentrated area of Iran. US aircraft flying from the big airbase in Qatar would have to penetrate only a few hundred kilometers of Iran to reach their launch points. If they were really worried they could take out the runways of three or four airbases to pave the way. Iran is a pretty big country. It is highly unlikely that their air defense system is capable of enough coverage to prevent aerial infiltration along a score of different routes.


21 posted on 09/11/2006 6:08:00 PM PDT by burster
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Image hosted by Photobucket.com the world is no match for the new Iranian TwinTail F-5... right??? please.
22 posted on 09/11/2006 6:08:27 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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Good Grief! What in the world has become of Aviation Week? What a joke of an article.


25 posted on 09/11/2006 7:25:09 PM PDT by CarryaBigStick
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Realistically, this is all scrap metal.

But one item caught my eye. "This appears to use an AIM-9P airframe". Then they speculate on Chinese help. This shows why Israel needs to be about a thousand times more serious about technology transfer. In case everybody forgot, Israel foolishly transfered tech acquired from us, to China, as the highest bidder for it. Now China has used it to arm Israel's most dangerous enemy. So heat seeking missile tech designed in the US would be used against US and Israeli pilots, all because some fool in Israel thought it clever to get money standing between a generous US and a crooked China.

27 posted on 09/11/2006 7:35:42 PM PDT by JasonC
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Iran held Saddam to a draw for eight years.

Period.

Kari quit working in five minutes. Tiger Song never answered the bell. I give Iran's air defense "network" all of six minutes to fold up like a derailed train.

BTW, Saddam's Guards were Republican.

Iran's Guards are Revolutionary.

Save trouble remembering by simply calling them Pasdaran. Not decades, not years, not weeks or days.

Soon.


29 posted on 09/11/2006 8:09:17 PM PDT by jeffers
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Good heavens, it's worse than I thought. The Iranian OOB includes one squadron of MiG-29's and a bunch of scrap metal? That isn't a "bite", it's a nibble. If that. And that assumes they can find pilots who can survive for more than 10 minutes in a very hostile environment.

I might be concerned about missile corridors throwing enough iron in the air to accidentally impact something but not their fighter threat. "Third-world" would be putting it charitably.

30 posted on 09/11/2006 8:22:12 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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"Iran also operates a network of air-defense radars"

Stop there. Take out these land based radars with Harms and ECM and their fighters are blind targets to us and the Israelis.
45 posted on 09/12/2006 10:16:18 AM PDT by ryan71
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"Iran's Mix-and-Match Air Force Still May Have Bite"

Yah. Against a Sopwith Pup.


47 posted on 09/12/2006 10:17:39 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Bullsh## doesn't get bridges built.)
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Why does the Iranian Navy have glass bottom boats?











So they will be able to see the Iranian Air Force.
52 posted on 09/12/2006 7:43:10 PM PDT by Veloxherc (To go up pull back, to go down pull back all the way.)
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bttt


54 posted on 09/12/2006 8:54:35 PM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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