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Black Incomes Rise Above Whites in Queens (NY)
NY Times ^ | October 1, 2006 | SAM ROBERTS

Posted on 09/30/2006 1:10:10 PM PDT by neverdem

Across the country, the income gap between blacks and whites remains wide, and nowhere more so than in Manhattan. But just a river away, a very different story is unfolding.

In Queens, the median income among black households, nearing $52,000 a year, has surpassed that of whites in 2005, an analysis of new census data shows. No other county in the country with a population over 65,000 can make that claim. The gains among blacks in Queens, the city’s quintessential middle-class borough, were driven largely by the growth of two-parent families and the successes of immigrants from the West Indies. Many live in tidy homes in verdant enclaves like Cambria Heights, Rosedale and Laurelton, just west of the Cross Island Parkway and the border with Nassau County.

David Veron, a 45-year-old lawyer, is one of them. He estimates that...

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Despite the economic progress among blacks in Queens, income gaps still endure within the borough’s black community, where immigrants, mostly from the Caribbean, are generally doing better than American-born blacks.

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“Racism and the lack of opportunity created a big gap and kind of put us at a deeper disadvantage,” said Steven Dennison, an American-born black resident of Springfield Gardens.

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“When immigrants come here, they’re not accustomed to social programs,” he said, “and when they see opportunities they had no access to — tuition or academic or practical training — they are God-sent, and they use those programs to build themselves and move forward.”

Immigrants helped propel the gains among blacks. The median income of foreign-born black households was $61,151, compared with $45,864 for American-born blacks. The disparity was even more pronounced among black married couples.

The median for married black immigrants was $84,338, nearly as much as for native-born white couples. For married American-born blacks, it was $70,324.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: blacks; census; classwarfare; economicconditions; economictrends; mediamorons; mediaprostitutes; queensnyc; socialistagenda
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The Slimes never misses a chance to blather about racism, even in a story in which it provides hard numbers that scream about the cultural difference which explains the income gap.
1 posted on 09/30/2006 1:10:11 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

A clear reason for reparations.


2 posted on 09/30/2006 1:12:01 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: neverdem
Investigators for the NYSLIMES have determined that the 65,000 Queens population is broken down as 64,998 blacks and 2 whites.
Robert Sanger and Willie Farnsworth are vagrants living in a cardboard box. They earn approximately $35,000 annually running their Lemonade stand on the corner of 16th and Elm.
3 posted on 09/30/2006 1:24:08 PM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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To: neverdem

I bet the same can be said about Harlem.


4 posted on 09/30/2006 1:25:39 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: CWOJackson

Harlem, way smaller than Queens, has a very different housing stock and much higher density, including lots of public housing.


5 posted on 09/30/2006 1:27:35 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: neverdem

What will race-hustlers like Sharpton do if the black middle-class continues to increase? Get real jobs? Or, continue to exploit the black underclass?


6 posted on 09/30/2006 1:33:29 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY ((((Truth shall set you free))))
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To: Clemenza

LI ping


7 posted on 09/30/2006 1:34:02 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Exactly. Blacks are succeeding?

Uh oh, this is not good news for the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of the world. What will be their function if a thriving Black middle-class becomes more prevalent?

Why, they won't need the services of Mr. Sharpton and Mr. Jackson any longer.


8 posted on 09/30/2006 1:40:58 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: NativeNewYorker

Harlem today has a weird, weird make-up...


9 posted on 09/30/2006 1:43:26 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
What will race-hustlers like Sharpton do if the black middle-class continues to increase? Get real jobs?

He has a real job as a talking head and candidate for something, no?

Or, continue to exploit the black underclass?

How can Sharpton & Co. stop the BS?

10 posted on 09/30/2006 1:43:46 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: durasell
*IF* the Wall Street/real estate bubble continues, gentrification will transform lots of row houses into upper-crust single family homes again. Apartments just north of Central Park now START @ $1 million.

Tenements/trashy apartment buildings/public housing will remain as islands of undesirability, as they do on the Upper West Side.

11 posted on 09/30/2006 1:52:58 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: NativeNewYorker

A lot of the old retail establishments have closed, which is a real loss (please, don't bring up Sylvia's -- the place was always over-rated). Basically Harlem won't be Harlem anymore...


12 posted on 09/30/2006 1:55:00 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: neverdem
The median income of foreign-born black households was $61,151, compared with $45,864 for American-born blacks.

Wait. How is that possible? Wouldn't the racism that keeps American-born blacks behind work the same way on foreign-born blacks? Hmmmm?

(Actually, Thomas Sowell addressed this very thing years ago, in Ethnic America).

13 posted on 09/30/2006 1:58:25 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: durasell

That's very true...but NY has *always* seen this kind of transformation...the Jews and the Irish and the Italians all had enclaves that blossomed and faded...why should Harlem's ethnicity be any different?


14 posted on 09/30/2006 2:01:35 PM PDT by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Free ThinkerNY
What will race-hustlers like Sharpton do if the black middle-class continues to increase? Get real jobs?

Work Loaf for the government... city, state or federal.

15 posted on 09/30/2006 2:02:00 PM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: NativeNewYorker

Everything should stay exactly as it is/was! Chinatown shouldn't have crossed Canal. I should still be able to hear an Irish brogue in the Bronx and get a decent knish in Flatbush!


16 posted on 09/30/2006 2:03:56 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

p.s.

That knish shouldn't cost more than a quarter!


17 posted on 09/30/2006 2:05:01 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: NativeNewYorker

And while I'm at it -- what the hell happened to Nedicks and why can't I get a decent egg cream anymore? The world has gone mad!


18 posted on 09/30/2006 2:11:44 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: NativeNewYorker
Harlem was originally populated by the Dutch and like the Bronx ( which was named for the Dutch family who had once farmed a huge tract of it, but whose name was Bronk..or some such spelling ) was way out in "the country".

In the late 1800s, Harlem was an all white community of middle and upper middle class whites, or varying ethnicities.

It wasn't until the beginnings of the 20th century that blacks moved there and it wasn't until WW II, that Puerto Ricans moved into a part of it.

Harlem has been in the midst of a white influx and a massive gentrification for about a decade or so, now.

Yes, N.Y.C. has ALWAYS been in the midst of some kind of strum&drang, with once VERY fashionable areas turning into slums and slums turning into posh places. It's the natural history of the city!

19 posted on 09/30/2006 2:19:13 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

But did they have to kill off the egg creams?


20 posted on 09/30/2006 2:20:22 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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