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Newsom also said he believed the vote would push more city residents away from the public schools.

"You think this is going to help keep families in San Francisco?" the mayor added. "No. It's going to hurt."

Newsom talks out of both sides of his mouth. In an article in this morning's San Francisco Examiner -- a free tabloid with a more balanced editorial staff, but mostly loaded with wire stories -- there was this overlooked detail:


Newsom said he was appreciative that the school board waited to take a vote on the controversial proposal until the election.

“Because this would have been an attack on Nancy Pelosi and the quote-unquote values of San Francisco,” Newsom said. “And the cheap-shot artists like [Bill] O’Reilly and Fox would have exploited it.”


Board member Eddie Chin was absent.

That's funny...I am at this moment watching the waning minutes of the Board of Ed live on the SF Government's website, and Eddie Chin was there. He must have conveeeeniently been unavailable during the JROTC vote.

San Francisco Values in action. Have at us, O'Reilly.

1 posted on 11/14/2006 11:40:23 PM PST by L.N. Smithee
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I don't want to ever hear them calling for help from our military.


2 posted on 11/14/2006 11:43:42 PM PST by CindyDawg
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To: humblegunner; Allegra; TheMom; Xenalyte; thackney; Eaker; stevie_d_64; TXBSAFH; Axiom Nine; ...

Sometimes the stupidity of people leaves me speechless Ping


3 posted on 11/14/2006 11:44:43 PM PST by pax_et_bonum (I will always love you, Flyer.)
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The is person does not live in the real world.


4 posted on 11/14/2006 11:44:45 PM PST by Dallas59 (Muslims Are Only Guests In Western Countries)
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San Francisco truly disgusts me. What a bunch of useless canon fodder!

A healthy democracy represses its military? Exactly how long is this clueless know-nothing expecting that healthful democracy to last?


5 posted on 11/14/2006 11:45:41 PM PST by CheyennePress
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"We don't want the military ruining our civilian institutions," said Sandra Schwartz, of the American Friends Service Committee..."

Except, of course, for the times the military protects those institutions.


6 posted on 11/14/2006 11:46:19 PM PST by navyguy (We don't need more youth. What we need is a fountain of SMART.)
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The missile defense of SF against ballistic missiles should have a radar cutout from sea level to zenith around their azimuth.

How do you ask a soldier to be the last one to die for a lie like San Francisco?

7 posted on 11/14/2006 11:46:20 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Difference between the CIA and the Free Clinic is that the Free Clinic knows how to stop a leak.)
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"In a healthy democracy ... You must contain the military."

Hmmm...and will she propose to contain the jihadis as well, or are they a more welcome component of a healthy democracy???


8 posted on 11/14/2006 11:47:22 PM PST by TXBlair (Conversate is not a word.)
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Nothing seems to amaze me anymore.


9 posted on 11/14/2006 11:47:36 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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Why couldn't these have been the education officials kidnapped today -- if it had to be, somewhere, to some?

Would have been a good object lesson, after all.

11 posted on 11/14/2006 11:49:56 PM PST by unspun (What do you think? Please think, before you answer.)
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My grandparents bought their first home in SF, in WWII. My mother was born there, while grandad was at war, on the USS Flint. Later, I went to school on the Presidio of SF, when I was a soldier.

My grandparants purchase of that first house made three generations of our family, financially. I have a picture of it, in my office.

Now, I am not sure if SF is still part of the US.

12 posted on 11/14/2006 11:51:13 PM PST by patton (Sanctimony frequently reaps its own reward.)
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"We need to teach a curriculum of peace.''

________________________

And in the backround is that hippy song..."come to San Francisco with flowers in your hair..."


13 posted on 11/14/2006 11:52:41 PM PST by Vinny (You can't compromise with evil.)
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I really wish we could send scum like this to the middle east and let them see how long they'd last with the "peaceful" terrorists.


14 posted on 11/14/2006 11:53:06 PM PST by NinoFan
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CORRECTION:

It appears that Commissioner Eddie Chin was indeed not at the meeting Tuesday night. The person that was doing the roll call mentioned "Mr. Chin", on votes, but there was no answer, aye or no.

L.N. Smithee regrets the error. And that he has to call himself the product of San Francisco public schools.

16 posted on 11/14/2006 11:53:53 PM PST by L.N. Smithee (Magnificent? NO. Bastard? YES!)
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From their website (American Friends Service Comittee - Quaker Values in Action):

Youth & Militarism

I find it amusing that socialist scum like this post a 'jobs' section to their website.
19 posted on 11/14/2006 11:58:43 PM PST by proud_yank (Socialism - An Answer In Search Of A Question For Over 100 Years)
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and our new House Leader Nancy Pelosi is a SF Lib/Dem. Way to go America, that a way to get out the vote....you reap what you sow....live with it sideliners.


20 posted on 11/14/2006 11:59:08 PM PST by RacerX1128
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Hey, San Francisco:


22 posted on 11/15/2006 12:05:41 AM PST by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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""We don't want the military ruining our civilian institutions," said Sandra Schwartz, of the American Friends Service Committee"

These people are really rotten.

24 posted on 11/15/2006 12:06:28 AM PST by spunkets
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The district pays the other half of salaries ($586,000) and $394,000 in benefits.

Earlier, Mayor Gavin Newsom weighed in on the debate, chastising the board for the effort to eliminate JROTC. A budget analysis found that the district could hire nine teachers with the money the district now spends on JROTC

Let's see, that $980,000, for 9 teachers. Let's not teach the kids about sacrificing for others, let's teach them about greedy unions.

25 posted on 11/15/2006 12:07:15 AM PST by feedback doctor (Mark Sanford - 2008)
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Their position was summed up by a former teacher, Nancy Mancias, who said, "We need to teach a curriculum of peace.''

They need to teach the truth about living in the REAL world... There IS NO Peace without Defense.
27 posted on 11/15/2006 12:10:06 AM PST by divine_moment_of_facts
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"The move sends the wrong message," he said. "It's important for the city not to be identified with disrespecting the sacrifice of men and women in uniform."

RE: "disrespecting the sacrifice of men and women in [U.S. uniforms]."

Enemy uniforms is another matter.

A search of the article found just one reference to Dan Kelly. No mention of Dan Kelley being jailed for war resistance during the Vietnam War.

Ah yes, "war resistance." I remember, read:

"Ho! Ho! Ho Chi Minh! The FLN is sure to win!"

"Hey, hey! LBJ. How many babies did you kill today?"

"Bring it all down, man."

. . . and all the lies that one John Kerry told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

28 posted on 11/15/2006 12:17:54 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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