English tell Scots to go for independence

The Scotsman ^ | 11/26/06 | Brian Brady

[Prodigal Son]

So what's up with this nonsense about independence?

Why didn't the US just stay with England back in 1776? Shared language and culture so why not?

Why not come on over and have the locals explain it to you?

[JimRed]

Sorry, I though you folks were stuck with the Euro; tax pounds would have been appropriate!

[Prodigal Son]

I know some members of the SNP want to be rid of the monarchy, but that may be a step too far for most Scots.

I haven't met that many Scots that are in favour of having a monarch. 'She's no my Queen' is normally what I hear them say.

[Pilsner]

Just so you know who Bonnie Prince Charlie's legitimate heir is.

And who were the Stuarts, but the heirs of the Tudors, who were but the last of a series of Lancastrian usurpers? Unless they have all died out, there is a Yorkist somewhere with a much older claim to the throne of England.

[Vicomte13]

There's probably a Welshman, or maybe even an Irishman, descended of Castelvellanus or Boadiccea with the oldest claim of all.

The last Royal Veto was the devolution of Scotland, by Queen Anne, back in the early 1700s. Maybe the next Royal Veto will be the devolution of Scotland, again.

Probably not, of course.

[Cheburashka]

And who were the Stuarts, but the heirs of the Tudors, who were but the last of a series of Lancastrian usurpers? Unless they have all died out, there is a Yorkist somewhere with a much older claim to the throne of England.
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They're talking about Scotland, where the Stuarts were the heirs of the Bruces.

[Pilsner]

They're talking about Scotland, where the Stuarts were the heirs of the Bruces.

Umm. So they were. And the Kings of the Scots got that title by conquest, so the heirs of Kings of Strathclyde, and the other Brittonic Kingdoms, need not start drafting their coronation speeches.

[Vicomte13]

Unless they can figure out a way to seize the land by conquest again today, in which case they can crown themselves king.

[Young Scholar]

Is Scotland still friendly with France, as it traditionally was a few centuries ago?

[Vanders9]

That's a very good question and one that the Scots Nationalists are carefully finessing.

[Vanders9]

Having talked to a few Scots unfortunate enough to be living in cities controlled by the SNP, I can offer the insight that they are also totally incompetent.

[Vanders9]

Well, both Cumbria and Northumberland have been part of Scotland in centuries past, so I suppose theres an historical precedent for it.

Getting used to bagpipes, porridge and haggis might be an issue though!

[Colosis]

thanks for the pings Irish!

[.44 Special]

I think yo're wrong and that you will find out that England has subsidised Scotland far in excess of the North Sea oil.

[.44 Special]

Exactly, but the discontent with the English goes much deeper than the Scots.

Immigration, taxes, council taxes, stealth taxes, threatened increase in road taxes, toll roads, exclusion zones, proposes bin taxes, roadside finger printing, speed camerass, CCTV, threatened conversation monitoring, national ID cards, political correctness gone wild, corrupt government, corrupt councils, a raped and ravaged NHS, criminals with more rights and benifits than innocents and believe me it goes on and on and on.

The English are boiling beneath the surface. They need their own Thomas Paine.

[kidd]

LOL!

[Mrs Ivan]

the cultural border between England and Scotland was the river Tyne, not the river Tweed.

But the southern border of the old kingdom of Northumbria is actually the river Humber ...

[Churchillspirit]

As I sell bagpipes, porridge and haggis in my store - no problem!!

[Churchillspirit]

But the southern border of the old kingdom of Northumbria is actually the river Humber.<

Maybe so, but my husband's point was that culturally the change was between Northumberland and Durham.

Having attended many dances with him in that area, I would agree.

[Jakarta ex-pat]

"Hang together,

or assuredly we shall all hang separately."