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Judge strikes down Bush on terror groups
AP ^ | 11/29/06 | LINDA DEUTSCH

Posted on 11/28/2006 7:37:21 PM PST by Pikamax

Judge strikes down Bush on terror groups By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent 41 minutes ago

A federal judge struck down President Bush's authority to designate groups as terrorists, saying his post-Sept. 11 executive order was unconstitutionally vague, according to a ruling released Tuesday.

The Humanitarian Law Project had challenged Bush's order, which blocked all the assets of groups or individuals he named as "specially designated global terrorists" after the 2001 terrorist attacks.

"This law gave the president unfettered authority to create blacklists," said David Cole, a lawyer for the Washington, D.C.-based Center for Constitutional Rights that represented the group. "It was reminiscent of the McCarthy era."

The case centered on two groups, the Liberation Tigers, which seeks a separate homeland for the Tamil people in Sri Lanka, and Partiya Karkeran Kurdistan, a political organization representing the interests of Kurds in Turkey.

U.S. District Judge Audrey Collins enjoined the government from blocking the assets of the two groups.

Both groups consider the Nov. 21 ruling a victory; both had been designated by the United States as foreign terrorist organizations.

Cole said the judge's ruling does not invalidate the hundreds of other designated terrorist groups on the list but "calls them into question."

Charles Miller, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice, said, "We are currently reviewing the decision and we have made no determination what the government's next step will be."

A White House spokeswoman declined to immediately comment. At the time of his order creating the list, Bush declared that the "grave acts of terrorism" and the "continuing and immediate threat of future attacks" constituted a national emergency.

The judge's 45-page ruling was a reversal of her own tentative findings last July in which she indicated she would uphold wide powers asserted by Bush under an anti-terror financing law. She delayed her ruling then to allow more legal briefs to be filed.

She also struck down the provision in which Bush had authorized the secretary of the treasury to designate anyone who "assists, sponsors or provides services to" or is "otherwise associated with" a designated group.

However, she let stand sections of the order that penalize those who provide "services" to designated terrorist groups. She said such services would include the humanitarian aid and rights training proposed by the plaintiffs.

The Humanitarian Law Project planned to appeal that part of the ruling, Cole said.

"We are pleased the court rejected many of the constitutional arguments raised by the plaintiffs, including their challenge to the government's ban on providing services to terrorist organizations," Miller said Tuesday. "However, we believe the court erred in finding that certain other aspects of the executive order were unconstitutional."

The ruling was still considered a victory, Cole said.

"Even in fighting terrorism the president cannot be given a blank check to blacklist anyone he considers a bad guy or a bad group and you can't imply guilt by association," Cole said.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: pkk; sdgt; tamiltigers; terroristgroups
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Tamil Tigers are not a terrorist group? I give up.
1 posted on 11/28/2006 7:37:22 PM PST by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Another Clinton appointee, of course. Central District of California, in L.A.

Here's an article from the Washington Times concerning another decision striking down anti-terrorist laws in 2004.

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20040127-121306-2279r.htm


2 posted on 11/28/2006 7:44:26 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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"...Tamil Tigers are not a terrorist group? I give up..."

Don't give up! Just count the number of mosques in your neighbourhood, then stay well armed and safe!................FRegards

3 posted on 11/28/2006 7:45:20 PM PST by gonzo (I'm not confused anymore. Now I'm sure we have to completely destroy Islam, and FAST!!)
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To: Pikamax

Imagine having judges like this when we were fighting WWII.

We'd all be saying "Sieg Heil" to Hitler's successor, and the Jews would have been pretty much exterminated.

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4 posted on 11/28/2006 7:45:37 PM PST by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: Pikamax
I'd have to read the ruling, but to suggest that the executive, empowered with specific charges from the legislative, is not able to perform those duties without calling the law itself unconstitutional is one of those things that typically the Ninth Circus is all about. This, if it goes further, will be nipped in the bud, and like any other inane ruling from a court, should be completely ignored.

The Administration's response should be: The judge is a moron.
5 posted on 11/28/2006 7:49:56 PM PST by kingu (No, I don't use sarcasm tags - it confuses people.)
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To: Pikamax

DANG! I have my own 'terrorist' list. It was because of the vague language, I felt eliminating them was going to be legal per declared, War on Terror. Dang! /s


6 posted on 11/28/2006 7:53:12 PM PST by moonman (`)
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To: Cicero

Just what I figured,....the LIBERAL RDDBs Judge-Shopped.


7 posted on 11/28/2006 7:53:42 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Pikamax

I guess the judge thinks that the US cannot legitimately fight a war -- any war.


8 posted on 11/28/2006 7:55:28 PM PST by Mad Dawg (Now we are all Massoud)
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To: Pikamax
So this liberal appointee reversed her own decision AFTER the dims were elected.....hummmm, what a surprise.
9 posted on 11/28/2006 7:56:14 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx
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To: Westbrook
We would have if the United States & the Soviet were not allies in fighting Nazi Germany. Remember before Hitler turned on Stalin their was a strong Antiwar movement in the US headed by the Communists. That all changed after the Nazis invaded the USSR. Biggest mistake Bush made after 9/11 was not reenacting the sedition laws on the books in both WWI & WWII. He should have realized that the American LEFT with their brothers in the MSM & democratic party at some point would undermine the war effort.
10 posted on 11/28/2006 7:59:05 PM PST by Max01
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"Imagine having judges like this when we were fighting WWII"

They would have been jailed, or hanged, or shot. The greatest generation knew how to deal with enemies.


11 posted on 11/28/2006 8:08:37 PM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Max01

Amen. The sedition act should have been among the first steps.


12 posted on 11/28/2006 8:10:30 PM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: Pikamax

What in the hell would a moronic pervert in a black robe know about terrorists? These unicycle riding buffoons have definitely overstepped their limits.


13 posted on 11/28/2006 8:11:39 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (The "conservative," Blue Lap Dog DemocRATS are in for a big surprise when Pelosi takes over.)
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To: Pikamax

To a Democrat judge the Tamil Tigers are not a terrorist group.


14 posted on 11/28/2006 8:21:20 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (What's the one elected position Ted Kennedy has never held? Designated Driver.)
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To: Cicero

"Another Clinton appointee, of course."

The Clintons aren't serious about fighting terrorism. Many forget that WJC pardoned 16 Marxist cop-killing FALN terrorists to help his wife appeal to Puerto Ricans in New York.

And many here are willing to hand these guys back the executive branch again.


15 posted on 11/28/2006 8:33:23 PM PST by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: JHBowden

Fools rush in where angels fear to tread.


16 posted on 11/28/2006 8:39:12 PM PST by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: prov1813man

Yet another reason why I wish they were still around today.

As far as I'm concerned, the only people who are using unconstitutional powers are dem appointed judges, who seem to think that the Judicial system has suddenly changed and given them the power to play God. We better pray the dems don't ever get a total majority on the Supreme Court, otherwise we'll be seeing crap like this on a grander, and more dangerous, scale.


17 posted on 11/28/2006 9:03:21 PM PST by RWB Patriot
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To: Pikamax
""Center for Constitutional Rights """

Same group that is trying to get Germany to bring torture charges against Rummy!
18 posted on 11/28/2006 9:09:56 PM PST by Jackson Brown (Conservatives just killed their racehorse in order to let their fortunes ride on a jackass)
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To: RWB Patriot

Too late, the "brilliant" voters decided to hand over judges to the liberal Dems in the Congress.

It's called "sending a message".


19 posted on 11/28/2006 9:17:26 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: Pikamax
"she ruled the provisions remained too vague to be understood by a person of average intelligence and were therefore unconstitutional."

Ruling that portions of the Patriot Act were too vague this same "whack job" established a right for a person of average person intelligence to understand the law.

So on this basis the Income Tax statutes are unconstitutional not to mention Campaign Finance and most of the other laws written recently (say since 1920?).

We want this one committed to a mental institution, not impeached!

20 posted on 11/28/2006 9:36:51 PM PST by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights.)
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