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CNET Editor's body found by Searchers (Update #941)
CNET TV ^ | 12-04-06 | From CNET TV

Posted on 12/04/2006 3:18:35 PM PST by sockmonkey

Wife and two daughters of senior editor James Kim found in Oregon; search is still on for James Kim, who left the car on foot two days ago.

The wife and daughters of missing CNET senior editor James Kim have been found alive and airlifted to a local hospital, authorities announced at a press conference in Merlin, Ore., Monday afternoon.

James Kim left the car on snowshoes two days ago to seek help and has not been found, the official said. The search for him continues.

According to the official speaking at the news conference, the conditions of Kati, Penelope and Sabine are not yet known. More details are expected at a press conference at 5 p.m. PST, which CNET will stream live.

Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.

After searches in Oregon's Curry and Douglas counties, new information on missing CNET senior editor James Kim and his family narrowed the search back to the Bear Camp area in Josephine County, according to reports Monday.

A cell phone tower received a signal from one of the family's cell phones at about 1:30 a.m. on Sunday near Glendale, but officials say the signal is only an indicator the family could have been within 26 miles of Glendale at that time, according to a report in The Oregonian.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: beprepared; cnet; family; jameskim; kim; missing; missingfamily; oregon; pragmatism
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To: Mjaye
I just take a 12 volt cell charger with me and also have a jump start unit in case the car battery is discharged. When going off-road I take two separate jump start units!
241 posted on 12/04/2006 6:57:19 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Mjaye
"The preparation for the unexpected is paramount in both driving and flying,..."

Recently on another thread about preparedness, I recalled in 68 , North of Dong Ha, advising a young newbie to make sure he had air in the spare and tools to remove a wheel in case of a flat. I think he could have used a couple of sand bags placed on the floor board as well.

To this day, I always have a collapsible entrenching tool in the trunk during winter season.

242 posted on 12/04/2006 6:58:24 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: little jeremiah

See any bears?


243 posted on 12/04/2006 6:59:37 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: BearWash
Hmmmm. George and his dad August Schrader spelled their name without the 'e'. I'd go with no 'e'...


244 posted on 12/04/2006 7:00:42 PM PST by null and void (To succeed in life, you need three things: a wishbone, a backbone and a funnybone. --Reba McEntire)
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To: RhoTheta

Thanks for the link.....


245 posted on 12/04/2006 7:01:21 PM PST by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: BearWash

The way the FAA thinks, or at least used to when I was flying, I am not sure they would not consider it to be a crank call just because very few people other than pilots would have a legitimate use for a radio that operates on the aviation frequencies.

It might work, but I would rather see self reliance and a means of communicating with an agency that is stuck with you once you declare a problem.

For instance, if you make a 911 call, that operator is obligated to send help. I know the bad stories, but nevertheless they are obligated.

From the FAA, you probably would get some reaction like "No reported aircraft missing, no flight plans not closed properly, must be a crank."

If you are in a downed aircraft and make a mayday call with the proper call number, that is the aircraft tail number, that would be checked against the registry and start a rescue operation whether you were on a flight plan or not.

After they called your home base to see if the plane was in the hanger and then called your fixed base operator. And then called your house.

If you crash on an IFR flight plan, you get a different reaction.

So many pilots were careless about closing VFR flight plans promptly, and so many on no fight plan were doing things they were not anxious to advertise, that there was usually a verification process they went through before they declared an aircraft missing.

At least, that was my observation during the years I flew. I retired about 8 years ago, so it may have changed some since then.

But a call that you are in a Beetle stuck in a snowbank...I just would not count on it.

Of course, any thing is better than nothing.


246 posted on 12/04/2006 7:02:13 PM PST by woodbutcher
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To: woodbutcher

Nooooooo!!


247 posted on 12/04/2006 7:03:16 PM PST by Jrabbit (Scuse me??)
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To: AnAmericanMother

Good advice.

Somewhere on this site (www.equipped.org) is some excellent survival advice.


248 posted on 12/04/2006 7:03:44 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget - And Never Again. And Always Act.)
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To: surfer
Remember that book the Andes Plane Crash? But for the one soccer player who had to climb down a mountain to get help, all would have perished.
249 posted on 12/04/2006 7:05:12 PM PST by TET1968 (SI MINOR PLUS EST ERGO NIHIL SUNT OMNIA)
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To: cva66snipe

Sometimes out west if you can get to a high point you can add a bunch of cell range. At a high point (~6,000 ft) along Hell's Canyon I got a good signal even with no towers within many miles. I know this happens in the Cascades foothills as well. No, I am not endorsing leaving the vehicle to do this, except maybe in summer conditions.


250 posted on 12/04/2006 7:05:28 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: BearWash

And I just did again; have been so little on FR lately I forgot.

I hope they find him. I wish people would not go up that road in winter; especially people not from around here.


251 posted on 12/04/2006 7:05:51 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: HarmlessLovableFuzzball

I think it's a judgement call. Most of the time it will be better to stay put, especially if you know people will be looking for you, and they have a general idea of where you might be. But there was a case a few years ago, also in Oregon, of a man who died waiting to be rescued when unbeknownst to him, he was only a short distance from a well traveled road.

As others have said, the ideal thing is not to get into a jam in the first place, and be well prepared if you do.


252 posted on 12/04/2006 7:07:38 PM PST by kms61
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To: Mjaye

My mom has one... she's showed it to me at least four times (ah the joys of getting older, I probably tell the same story multiple times too). The devicee uses AA batteries and plugs into the charge connection. That is another good idea. I need to make a list from this advice.

Meanwhile, another prayer for James Kim.


253 posted on 12/04/2006 7:07:47 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (Pray for our President and for our heroes in Iraq and Afghanistan, and around the world!)
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To: All

Goodnight, all. Hope they find the dad in good shape.


254 posted on 12/04/2006 7:08:13 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: surfer
Thank goodness for cellular and Cingular stepping up to use triangulation to focus the search.

I don't think they did triangulate. They just determined the location of the cell site last pinged by the phone. Their announced estimate of the location was somewhere within a 26 mile radius of that site.

255 posted on 12/04/2006 7:09:42 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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To: BearWash
You mean Schrader Valve, I think, where it is present. Only my diesel truck has one in the fuel line; none of the cars do.

Sorry to burst your bubble but August Schrader valve are used anywhere from A/C's, Fuel Rails, and tires.

256 posted on 12/04/2006 7:12:37 PM PST by danmar (Tomorrow's life is too late. Live today!)
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To: danmar
That isn't what I said. Only the truck has one in the fuel line and that is a true statement. I had no reason to reference the low-side coolant valve or the tire valve and those wouldn't much help you get gasoline.
257 posted on 12/04/2006 7:14:26 PM PST by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: omega4179
Wonderful news, it was up to the family to find them jeers to the police.

This has to be the STUPIDEST comment I have seen on FR in YEARS!

258 posted on 12/04/2006 7:15:52 PM PST by paulat (about)
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To: BearWash
Those circumstances are where an English Bobby's Police Whistle would come in handy. We have one in the survival kits in all our vehicles.
259 posted on 12/04/2006 7:16:05 PM PST by AmeriBrit (Soros and Clinton's for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington = SCREW.)
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To: OregonRancher

When I heard they were last seen in Portland and heading to the coast I figured they went off the road - as I recall their are two main roads heading over the hills that are both pretty winding and steep and dark. I guess we're still waiting for details, but I wonder if they were in an accident or if they got off the road into a rest area/ camp ground to wait out the poor travelling conditions? Prayers for the family.


260 posted on 12/04/2006 7:17:03 PM PST by geopyg (Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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