CNET Editor's body found by Searchers (Update #941)

CNET TV ^ | 12-04-06 | From CNET TV

[sockmonkey]

Wife and two daughters of senior editor James Kim found in Oregon; search is still on for James Kim, who left the car on foot two days ago.

The wife and daughters of missing CNET senior editor James Kim have been found alive and airlifted to a local hospital, authorities announced at a press conference in Merlin, Ore., Monday afternoon.

James Kim left the car on snowshoes two days ago to seek help and has not been found, the official said. The search for him continues.

According to the official speaking at the news conference, the conditions of Kati, Penelope and Sabine are not yet known. More details are expected at a press conference at 5 p.m. PST, which CNET will stream live.

Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.

After searches in Oregon's Curry and Douglas counties, new information on missing CNET senior editor James Kim and his family narrowed the search back to the Bear Camp area in Josephine County, according to reports Monday.

A cell phone tower received a signal from one of the family's cell phones at about 1:30 a.m. on Sunday near Glendale, but officials say the signal is only an indicator the family could have been within 26 miles of Glendale at that time, according to a report in The Oregonian.

[cgk]

Wow, that is the one episode of that series I remember the most!

[Dead Dog]

This is very close to the area a salesman, new to Oregon, had decided to take a scenic route from the coast to Grants Pass via the logging roads. He got stuck in a snowstorm, waited a couple of days and then died hiking the 19 miles to safety. They found him 3 miles from town.

[raygun]

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[Issaquahking]

Am familiar with the country there. Great people, but not a whole lot of cell coverage out there. Look at a map of highway 140, some of the more remote places here in America.


Prayers for all involved.

[ArmstedFragg]

he family was seeking a scenic route to Gold Beach.

Well, it was scenic alright.

[omega4179]

Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.

Sorry I guess YOURS is the stupidest.

[steve86]

Use something like Delorme Street Atlas and you can look at it and tell what kind of road it is.

Yeah, my first step is generally to view one of the state-wide travel atlases (where one page might be 30 miles on a side, roughly). The next step is to get forest service maps from the applicable ranger district. Some people then go the even finer levels for topo maps and so forth.

[Shion]

You can kill yourself in north Georgia or the Smoky Mountain park just as easily as in Oregon. Doesn't get quite as cold, but it's surprising how quickly hypothermia can set in in relatively mild winter temperatures, particularly if you get wet.

True. We have people die of exposure down here in San Diego occasionally. People underestimate how a blazing hot day can turn into a very cold desert night, and how even temps as low as the forties can be unhealthy. Suprising, but it happens.

[null and void]

Larson cartoon...

[cgk]

Trust me, you key up on 121.5, and they'll find you all right. They'll be R-E-A-L-L-Y unhappy, but they'll find you.

I wish hubby and I had known some of this before we got stuck in Death Valley one night several years back.

I tried to light big bonfires that kept fizzling out (strangely enough in a National Monument) to get the attention of the China Lake flyers with zero luck. I was thinking fire would be highly visible at night. Nope, but it helped keep us warm.

[Churchillspirit]

Part of my business involves taking our goods on the road to various outside events all over the western US.

We pack up our truck and go.

I have provided everything I think they could possibly need to survive for several days if they ran into inclement weather - food; water; batteries; blankets; radio; toilet items etc.

They laugh at me and complain about the room these items occupy, but at least I know they would have a fighting chance if they encountered a major problem.

Hopefully the dad in this case will be found alive.

[raygun]

Did ya see the one 'bout the guy who hiked for days in the Yukon (or someplace)? In bitter cold so far below the frost point that it absoultely and utterly reeked of death? He set out alone, on foot, he finally stumbled onto that snow covered sign that indicated cheerily that the next outpost of civilization was a mere 45 miles thisaway?

What about the guide that had a huge boulder fall onto his legs, and his "fare" had to run down the mountain, through the jungle, to get to the ferry in time? That one stuck in my mind Especially when that lobster/crayfish thing was eating his foot and he couldn't feel it.

[paulat]

Kati Kim reportedly flagged down a helicopter rented by families of the missing persons.

Sorry I guess YOURS is the stupidest.

The private helicopter was IN ADDITION to police searches...they got there first, good for them!

Your slam of the police who have been working night-and-day on this is truly ugly.

[ArmstedFragg]

Mostly what you do is you figure where half the distance to the next tower is, then make some adjustments for terrain.

Out in the boonies, you're usually only in contact with one cell site. In a more urban sitiation, the system computer is constantly making a comparison of signal strength from whatever repeaters you happen to be hitting. When any one of them has a stronger signal, your call gets switched over to that site.

Dropped calls are usually because NO site has a signal from you.

[bitt]

yep on that.

[cgk]

Did that story with the 17 yr old girl happen a LONG time ago? Like maybe 15-20 years or so? I remember reading something VERY similar when I was a kid, and that story has always stuck with me. I think I remember reading that the girl's glasses broke, she found bodies still strapped to plane seats in the jungle, the fruit she wouldn't let herself eat and had to toss, and the gasoline the natives poured on her wounds to kill the parasites in her wounds.

[CurlyDave]

In a case like this he could have taken a tire off the car, or the spare, put some gas on it a started it on fire. Tires are very smokey and would have been seen very quickly.

If you are ever going to try this trick, let the air out & cut the valve stem off.

Burning a pressurized tire is a great way to injured, maybe even seriously burned, out in the middle of nowhere with no medical help in sight.

[DB]

Burn the tires on clear days so the smoke can be seen from far away. I'd even burn the car before giving up.

The biggest "DO NOT EVER DO THIS" is don't take short cuts on back roads in bad weather. Really, really stupid thing to do. Which is what this guy apparently did...

[woodbutcher]

Yeah, my first step is generally to view one of the state-wide travel atlases (where one page might be 30 miles on a side, roughly). The next step is to get forest service maps from the applicable ranger district. Some people then go the even finer levels for topo maps and so forth.

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With the Delorme, you can zoom in and zoom in until it will show you a road by the foot.

I am one mile off the county road. My farm road ends at my carport and the last 100 yards of it was never any kind of state or county road, yet when I fire up the satellite receiver, it puts that green dot right on my carport.

There is no question that it would show that a road is little more than a pig path in the high mountains. I have not used it in a long time and I am runnin on linux right now and because Delorme is a Windows app, I can't fire it up to double check, but I think you can also put the cursor on a given spot and read the elevation. It is almost as good as a topo anyway.

[Mjaye]

I lived all over the world. I now live in western South Dakota, but spent 30 years in Wyoming. It is still and always will be my favorite state.<<<<<<

LOL, my husband just returned from an assignment North of Douglas, WY, cold and more cold. He's still thawing out, and a month ago we were talking on the phone each day about how he could avoid becoming a statistic stuck out in a snowbank up there. He was off road lots of the time, and it seemed like there must have been endless antelope crossing in front of him when he was on the road. He didn't want to hear about the 90+ degree heatwave we were having, for some reason.