CNET Editor's body found by Searchers (Update #941)

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[woodbutcher]

The online maps like Google and Microsoft have satellite and (and increasingly, birds-eye aerial

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You are correct. I used MapQuest the other day to find a business location in the next town. I di zoom in enough to get the info I needed.

But I used it only because I have a dual boot system and I did not want to shut down linux and wait for W2K and all of the ant-spyware junk to load.

But I found the MapQuest harder to use, lacking in a lot of good information that Delorme has, and it worked for me because it was in a town with which I am pretty familar anyway.

And it was not on top of a snowy mountain.

For instance, Delome would have shown that there was not a filling station or a place to eat or any type of incorporated village for 85 miles.

That would get the attention of anysensible person traveling with a baby in a snowstorm.

The wife was the smart one, so far as self preservation goes. She would have raised a fuss.

[steve86]

I ran into something with Google just the other day. Sometimes the aerial views, when zoomed in to maximum resolution, appear to show trails and paths quite clearly, when in fact the routes have been abandoned for years. I thought I had found a new trail to ride and went out to view it. Sure, I could sort of make it out on the ground, in places, but it was not what you would call a continuous path. But on the Google view it looks almost like a paved bikeway. And you can't make out the fences!

The one thing I like is when you overlay the aerial view with the road map, like with forest service roads. It is kind of amusing when they don't quite match up.

[steve86]

Is this Delorme thing a paid subscription service or what? I also happen to use Linux with dual boot.

[george76]

A injury to an ankle or knee could be very serious if one is hiking alone , off the trail, without a satelite telephone, lacking proper gear, in bad weather...

[cgk]

Completely true, too. The first in search of a surface rupture by the massive Hector Mine EQ (this author had a similar 'bombshell' experience...), the 2nd 'don't do this' was in search of the Racetrack Playa and the moving rocks.

29 Palms & Death Valley.

Goodtimes. :)

[danmar]

Dunno, tried googling it with an umlaut, nothing in particular came up.

Told you so, ol' August Schrader tweaked his name since 1891.

[Irish Eyes]

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[jacquej]

Ok, I am an "old" mother, so maybe I just don't understand the young'uns. But, what mother of a 4 year old, and a 7 month old baby takes a trek like this, unprepared?

Maybe it is a San Francisco "kind of mind" thing. But, I am upset that she risked this with her little ones. I surely hope it wasn't with a "book" in mind...

Please, before you all jump on me, consider my advanced age. Us older mothers would never have ventured out with our babies this way. Either they are clueless, or looking for a good story.

Time will tell, of course. I do hope the father is found alive and well. But, something about this stinks to me. They are either dumb enough to qualify for a Darwin award, or they are looking for "fame, glory and a good 15 minute story".

[null and void]

Modern life is dangerously safe.

[woodbutcher]

Is this Delorme thing a paid subscription service or what? I also happen to use Linux with dual boot.

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Delorme is a for purchase. Two CD's. With the receiver, something like $120 or so. I forgot exactly. Updates for a reasonable price, but I don't remember as I have not updated for a couple of years.

Staples, Comp-USA, etc., carry it.

Too much to download.

Works good on a lap top on the truck seat. Talks to you, etc.

I saw two or three months ago on the Ubuntu forum that some guy had figured out a way to port it to linux, but it was so complicated I decided to pass since I am not traveling as much as I once did.

Very good software.

[raygun]

I would never go into wilderness/remote area w/out a topo map. Particularly because I was taught at a very early age what information topo maps contain. This was the precipitating reason why I obtained USGS topo maps for surrounding foothill area in Denver before I ventured into the foothills alone.

This jaunt into the foothills went along HWY-6 (W into the foothills), and I had the appropriate topo-map segment facingt me in the passanger seat besides me, so as to know what the road was going to do as I hurtled towards that mountain-side obscured switchback (you know the one, with the 1000' foot tumble down into the ravine only feet from the edge of the road) at 100+ MPH.

With the topo-map I was confident that I could take the mountain road curve beginning from far outside, cut into the inside and drift to the outside (oncoming) lane with confidence that if one of the remote chance occurances of an oncoming vehicle would present itself: I'd be able to maneuaver back into my lane. Its not recommended to being in such situation only to find oneself in a 35% downgrade. That bad.

I can proudly say this: it has been said by somebody who's wet my seat, "You've not been in the mountains until you've been driven through them by RayGun - and at least 1000' feet of solid air 4' from your passanger door is all that is holding you up".

[woodbutcher]

Hopefully James Kim will be found okay."

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Chances are less than 1 in a million.

Reason being: He left the road.

That means that he lost his head.

Over and over in these situations, it has been shown that keeping your head is worth more than any one single thing.

I hope that I am wrong, but it is my opinion that he lost his head.

[steve86]

Us older mothers would never have ventured out with our babies this way.

But, OTOH, when my mother was a young mother many of the roads through the mountains around here were pretty much like that and there was no scheduled airline service. If they had to go on a trip in the winter the babies went too by necessity. The difference is that the CNET people did it purely as an elective or recreational thing and used poor judgment in doing so.

[Arizona Carolyn]

I heard they misread the map, took a wrong road and ended up on a road normally used by River Rafters and then stuck in the snow. In all honesty, it could happen to any of us in unfamiliar territory and bad weather. This is the same place some other people were lost a month or so ago, so it definitely wasn't an anomaly.

[steve86]

I didn't know about misreading the map. But I for one couldn't drive very far on a forest service road without realizing the mistake. It goes back to what we said earlier on the thread -- TURN AROUND. Also, they should have taken the Highway 42 or whatever the number is and had no business being anywhere near the unimproved roads in these forecast conditions.

[raygun]

What makes you think that they were "unprepared"? Hubby set off on "snowshoes". One doesn't go "snowshoeing" without a bit more equipment than merely snowshoes.

Let us not rush to judgement concerning irresponsibility.

[Arizona Carolyn]

The article on Yahoo is more informative than this article from CNet. Said, for instance she nursed both children to keep them nourished. `At this point I just hope they find him alive, it's a real miracle the wife and children were located after all this time.

[steve86]

Yes, I had good things to say about the mother also.

[jacquej]

Good point, BearWash. I would venture that you knew what you were doing, where you were going, and were prepared for the trip before you ventured out with the lil ones...

So why did these people do this?

Idiot fools or hopeful profiteers?

It certainly wasn't an essential trip for groceries or medical care!

[steve86]

Has anyone heard who was actually driving the car?