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Greenspan says expects more dollar weakness
Reuters (via Yahoo) ^ | December 11, 2006

Posted on 12/11/2006 7:10:05 PM PST by GodGunsGuts

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To: oceanview

Post #17, 23, 25, 30, was what I would like to discuss. I don't log on to FR to talk about appliances if I can help it.


41 posted on 12/11/2006 9:18:59 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

the discussion went this route because you asked why europe didn't seem to have the voracious appetite for cheap asian goods that US consumers have. that after all, is why they don't have a huge trade deficit with them.


42 posted on 12/11/2006 9:23:36 PM PST by oceanview
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To: GodGunsGuts
Isn't he supposed to STFU now that he's retired? Didn't he do enough damage to our economy already with his massive currency inflation?

Go away, Alan. Go play clarinet or re-read Ayn Rand or something.

43 posted on 12/11/2006 9:24:14 PM PST by Jack Black
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To: oceanview
No, you stated that
"they do not have voracious consumers like we do, a "disposable" society. you buy an appliance from a european manufacturer - it lasts 10 years. in the US, I buy a new crap chinese made coffee maker every 2 years when the heating element fails."

That was your entire post #33 and to say it isn't true would be an understatement.
44 posted on 12/11/2006 9:27:19 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

its a pretty simple equation that europe doesn't have a huge trade deficit with china - because they don't have a huge appetite for chinese products. america obviously does.

you assign your own reasons as to why that is true, if you don't like mine.


45 posted on 12/11/2006 9:30:52 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Toddsterpatriot

And in the meantime, I will point out that gold is going to the moon, the USD will continue to crater because of our massive deficits, the housing bubble exists and is deflating, and that the economy is headed for a major recession (and how to profit from all of the above).


46 posted on 12/11/2006 9:31:15 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: oceanview

I already did in post #30. Europe is digging an inescapable hole.


47 posted on 12/11/2006 9:34:03 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: kinoxi

they are protecting some of their key industries from the onslaught of cheap asian products. the US didn't. we'll see how it turns out. on the current path - the US will be left with mostly a service economy (and government, and government related services like health care, education, etc). the US grows its economy by growing two things - population, and services.


48 posted on 12/11/2006 9:38:12 PM PST by oceanview
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Besides possible inflatoin, so what if the dollar goes lower? Is this a bad thing?


49 posted on 12/11/2006 9:48:20 PM PST by uscabjd ( a)
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To: oceanview
You approve of protectionism/socialism as an economic policy. Every current history book (and economic book) proves you wrong yet you still promote this. It is interesting.
50 posted on 12/11/2006 9:51:34 PM PST by kinoxi
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To: GodGunsGuts
And in the meantime, I will point out that gold is going to the moon, the USD will continue to crater because of our massive deficits, the housing bubble exists and is deflating, and that the economy is headed for a major recession (and how to profit from all of the above).

Yes, we've seen your market predictions (guarantees) before. We'll see how they work out. Just try not to post so many factual errors. Try not to be so sensitive when I point them out.

51 posted on 12/11/2006 9:52:48 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
"Got gold/commodity-based currencies??? "

Why do goldbugs insist on valuing gold in some currency or another? Why not in pounds of tuna or board feet?

yitbos

52 posted on 12/11/2006 10:57:09 PM PST by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

"Those pieces of paper, which should really be gold, are a token of honor - your claim upon the energy of the men who produce."

--Ayn Rand

"The Only Substitute for Gold Money is the Muzzle of the Gun"

--Ayn Rand

"Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying gold money, for it is man's protection, and the base of a moral existence. Destroyers seize gold and leave to its owners a counterfeit pile of paper. This kills all objective standards and delivers men into the arbitrary power of an arbitrary setter of values. Gold is an objective value, an equivalent of wealth produced. Paper money is mortgage on wealth that does not exist, backed by guns aimed at those who are expected to produce."

--Ayn Rand


53 posted on 12/11/2006 11:41:36 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Feel free to play the accountant and point out clerical, terminology or computational errors wherever you find them. On balance, I have found that your input only serves to strengthen my arguments anyway.


54 posted on 12/12/2006 12:05:38 AM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

yup


55 posted on 12/12/2006 12:22:15 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: Jack Black

What is he printing today ?

Anyhow Helicopter Bernanke is no better.


56 posted on 12/12/2006 12:24:13 AM PST by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: GodGunsGuts; Toddsterpatriot
"gold is going to the moon, the USD will continue to crater because of our massive deficits, the housing bubble exists and is deflating, and that the economy is headed for a major recession"

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57 posted on 12/12/2006 6:14:17 AM PST by expat_panama
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To: bruinbirdman; expat_panama
Why do goldbugs insist on valuing gold in some currency or another? Why not in pounds of tuna or board feet?

Expat has a nice chart showing gold priced in gallons of milk. He's not a goldbug.

58 posted on 12/12/2006 6:48:02 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: GodGunsGuts
Feel free to play the accountant and point out clerical, terminology or computational errors wherever you find them.

When you use accounting terms like balance of payment and then claim that the balance is really a deficit, I'll point out your error. When you double count the trade deficit, I'll point out your error.

On balance, I have found that your input only serves to strengthen my arguments anyway.

Only if your argument is that your info is inaccurate.

59 posted on 12/12/2006 6:51:47 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (If you agree with EPI, you're not a conservative!)
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To: bruinbirdman; Toddsterpatriot
gold priced in gallons of milk.

Thanks for reminding me --it was time to update with the latest milk prices.

60 posted on 12/12/2006 8:04:31 AM PST by expat_panama
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