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Who Are We To Say Who Is Overpaid?
Investor's Business Daily ^ | 29 December 2006 | Thomas Sowell

Posted on 12/29/2006 12:13:05 PM PST by shrinkermd

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To: proxy_user

Since going public, the company I work for has gone through CEOs at an average of 1 every 2 years. Each left the company a little worse off then when they took the job, and each walked off with a couple of million in bonus money. Thankfully, we're going private again.


21 posted on 12/29/2006 12:53:52 PM PST by Wolfie
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To: DManA

I agree with you, not something I want the government involved in...this is up to the board of directors and stockholders of these companies to straighten out.


22 posted on 12/29/2006 12:57:17 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: PeterFinn
Sorry, Mr. Sowell. I do not see the worth of paying some 'tard millions of dollars while his company goes in the shi**er and has to layoff 20-25% of it's workforce - as in the case of Paul Otellini at Intel. Paying this jerkoff a fortune to act as a corporate raider by selling off valuable assets of the company *just as they are set to turn a profit* is NOT doing a service to the shareholders of Intel.

The current Business Roundtable ethos of the CEO's purpose being to deliver profits this quarter (whatever quarter that may be) while not caring f*ck all for the future of the firm is destructive in the extreme.

I am blessed to work for a multi-billion dollar family-owned firm that has been in business for 140 years and they steadfastly refuse to hire jerkoffs like Otellini because they want to be in business 140 years from now.

It's the mindset that is obsessed with short-term corporate profits over long-term corporate survival that will be the downfall of this country.

Were livestock firms run by Wall Street they'd slaughter everything in order to return "record profits" for one quarter and then next quarter they'd move on to ruin another business.

I'm no leftie, but having corporate raiders run our national infrastructure is never going to come to any good. We need responsible men with a commitment to their company, their product, and their employees and the profits will happen on their own.

23 posted on 12/29/2006 12:59:17 PM PST by PeterFinn (The end of islam is the beginning of peace.)
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To: i_dont_chat
I agree with your comment 100% as I am sure everyone else does.

But, you know that those who regularly say that someone (or a group of people) are "overpaid" are in search of government controls on that person(s) pay. And that is really the point of the article and discussion.

24 posted on 12/29/2006 12:59:25 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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To: shrinkermd

At $15 million per year, Katie Kouric is waaayyyy overpaid.

Says me.


25 posted on 12/29/2006 1:01:08 PM PST by Beckwith (The dhimmicrats and liberal media have chosen sides and they've sided with the Jihadists.)
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To: Wolfie
Thankfully, we're going private again.

Any sensible firm that wants to be around into the next decade would be wise to do the same.

26 posted on 12/29/2006 1:01:26 PM PST by PeterFinn (The end of islam is the beginning of peace.)
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To: DManA

Entertraitors are in a completely different catagory.

I agree with the folks who say these things have a way of correcting themselves.
Here's an article with all the 'catch phrases' of the left. Only substitue 'middle class' for 'workers'. (See the 'concentration of wealth in fewer hands'.
http://www.wpb.be/guests/imperial.htm


27 posted on 12/29/2006 1:04:53 PM PST by griswold3
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To: DManA
While I believe paying the CEO 50X what the average worker makes is excessive

That tells me there's a supply problem. Being a CEO must be a pretty tough job since since it looks like good ones are hard to find.

28 posted on 12/29/2006 1:09:07 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Beckwith

Says her boss and the advertisers who support the boss and Katie--Nyet, she is worth it.


29 posted on 12/29/2006 1:10:16 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: i_dont_chat

Well, you are right, you can have any opinion, but can you make people you believe are overpaid take less?


30 posted on 12/29/2006 1:12:23 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Mase

If that were the case then there's be a handful of extremely successful, extremely high paid executives. Seems to me that high top exectutive wages are being showered pretty indiscriminatingly. Sometimes with above average results, more times not.


31 posted on 12/29/2006 1:26:02 PM PST by DManA
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To: shrinkermd


Who will be the 'decider' as to the 'worth' of a person?


32 posted on 12/29/2006 1:28:03 PM PST by griswold3
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To: shrinkermd

Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, Tom Cruise, etc, etc,


33 posted on 12/29/2006 1:31:43 PM PST by Waco
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To: Waco

Tom Cruise et al are all paid by consumers for services rendered. Whether it is athletics or looking pretty people pay for it.


34 posted on 12/29/2006 1:35:03 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: griswold3

Utltimately, the consumer. In case of corporate moguls the board of directors.


35 posted on 12/29/2006 1:36:00 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: Mase
There are a lot of people (not all necessarily here) that truly believe CEO's have a 9-to-5 job, and spend as much time at the club as at the office.
36 posted on 12/29/2006 1:36:36 PM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: shrinkermd; Waco
Tiger Woods and other PGA golfers, outside of endorsement contracts, actually earn their paychecks.

Miss the cut, no check.

37 posted on 12/29/2006 1:37:53 PM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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truly believe CEO's have a 9-to-5 job

Who does? They can't work 30X more hours than an engineer in the company.

38 posted on 12/29/2006 1:42:57 PM PST by DManA
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If that were the case then there's be a handful of extremely successful, extremely high paid executives

There are about 5 million corporations in the U.S. How many of those CEO's are extremely high paid? I'll bet it's no more than a handful. An effective CEO is always in demand because they're hard to find. Some get themselves into situations that can't be fixed while others get on the train as it's picking up speed. Most of them though, have a tough job and they're paid accordingly.

Seems to me that high top exectutive wages are being showered pretty indiscriminatingly

Maybe at some companies at some particular time but your statement would not hold water when a large sampling of corporations is considered. No doubt the Fortune 1,000 companies compensate their top executives very well but they demand a hell of a lot in return and competition is fierce. You'll find that most CEO's run small companies and earn small to mid six-figure salaries. That's not what I would call excessive.

39 posted on 12/29/2006 1:43:53 PM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Phantom Lord

Which bring up a (different but related) question, do companies really get value for the money they pay to sponsor the PGA or is it just a big ego thing and perq for the top execs?


40 posted on 12/29/2006 1:45:19 PM PST by DManA
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