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The Noble Savage is French Toast
The American Thinker ^ | January 30, 2007 | James Lewis

Posted on 01/30/2007 6:35:52 AM PST by Tolik

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1 posted on 01/30/2007 6:35:53 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Lando Lincoln; quidnunc; .cnI redruM; Valin; King Prout; SJackson; dennisw; monkeyshine; ...
James Lewis:

...Politically Correct history is nonsense, as ordinary people have known for a long time. But it is important to set the record straight.  Understanding the human proclivity to violence places American history ... in a more accurate context. ...

...Acknowledging human violence is not the same as excusing it. Just the opposite --- precisely because we have the capacity to destroy, we must be taught to act morally. That is the basic view of Western Civilization going back to the Code of Hammurabi. Civilized armed forces like the United States insist on high levels of restraint in their warfighters, even in the face of direct personal danger. But the civilized world is constantly faced with aggressive enemies willing to kill and die for some bizarre cause, from the heavenly glory of the Emperor to some Mullah's weird obsession with hanging sixteen year old girls who fall in love. Not to mention yet another Marxist scam to create a perfectly egalitarian paradise on earth, as is underway in Venezuela today.

Weird, aggressive regimes are hardly unusual in history. Germany and Japan were merciless, power hungry nations seven decades ago. Their soldiers were ordered to suppress any feelings of sympathy while killing innocent civilians. Those nations engaged in unprovoked genocides and endless cruelties, just as jihadis do today. It is vital to understand that, and to grasp that the democratic Anglo-American response was truly defensive, as it is today. We represent civilization against primitive savagery. Pacifists only talk about being civilized; nations that defend against primitive savages actually do something about it. That makes all the difference.

One of the oddities of the Left is its constant sabotage of defensive warfare, even when the facts are as plain as the assault on the Twin Towers on 9/11 ...

...Telling the truth about human nature, about the need for rational defense, the crying need for courage and honesty in the face of lies and propaganda, is therefore very, very important. In this book, a famously leftist New York Times staffer is telling it like it is. For Nicholas Wade, the Noble Savage of socialist fantasy has been exposed as a delusion.

It is a sufficiently rare event to celebrate.


Nailed It!

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2 posted on 01/30/2007 6:37:38 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tolik
I have to recommend Orson Scott Card's "Pastwatch" at this point, if only for the observation within that human slavery, while distasteful, was actually better than what it replaced: human sacrifice. Somewhere, sometime along the way in history, someone figured out that it was a waste to kill all the prisoners and captives of war with other tribes and states. They could be useful if alive.

It's interesting to note that the Americas had no slavery before the Europeans and Africans came over. Before that, they just killed everyone.

3 posted on 01/30/2007 6:43:08 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tolik
One of the oddities of the Left is its constant sabotage of defensive warfare, even when the facts are as plain as the assault on the Twin Towers on 9/11 ...

Peace protesters come to mind - wouldn't it be wonderful to see these nits protesting terrorists for a change.....................

4 posted on 01/30/2007 6:44:33 AM PST by yoe (Hell is coming now for sure...................)
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To: Tolik
"Let's hope [Germany] get[s] over it - because if they don't, they could be setting the stage for yet another imperial adventure."

Well, if they do have another adventure, I say they can have France this time. But then they have to stop. And hands off Poland, or else.

5 posted on 01/30/2007 6:45:48 AM PST by NonValueAdded (Pelosi, the call was for Comity, not Comedy. But thanks for the laughs. StarKisses, NVA.)
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To: Tolik
From the headlline, the first thing I thought of was that this guy had gone off the air (not that that would be a bad thing):


6 posted on 01/30/2007 6:49:11 AM PST by Michael.SF. (It's time our lawmakers paid more attention to their responsibilities, and less to their privileges.)
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To: Tolik

There is not one leftist, socialist or liberal regime that has been peaceful. They have, ever one, been marauding, malevolent and murderous. They appeal to cowardice, racism and hatred. Witness the anti war crowd here in the US.
The greatest threat to civilization is liberalism. It is the wellspring of our basest instincts.


7 posted on 01/30/2007 6:50:12 AM PST by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Tanniker Smith
...the Americas had no slavery before the Europeans and Africans came over...

The Native American Indians didn't enslave others?.........or did they just kill the men?........

8 posted on 01/30/2007 6:50:57 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Tanniker Smith

It's interesting to note that the Americas had no slavery before the Europeans and Africans came over. Before that, they just killed everyone.


I believe at least one tribe in the Pacific NW kept slaves.


9 posted on 01/30/2007 6:51:36 AM PST by freedomfiter2 (Hunter '08)
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To: Michael.SF.

He's got 2-3 years left in him.

Then you can woo hoo it up all you want.


10 posted on 01/30/2007 6:54:27 AM PST by period end of story
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To: Michael.SF.
I hope he did not patent the name . I listen him on the radio once in a while (when driving and can't catch anything else). But even when I agree with the gist of the message, his style is alien to me. He has a good number of fans, but not me.
11 posted on 01/30/2007 6:55:02 AM PST by Tolik
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To: Tanniker Smith

ping for later read.


12 posted on 01/30/2007 6:57:58 AM PST by altura
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To: Red Badger
The Native American Indians didn't enslave others?.........or did they just kill the men?........

I could be wrong but I really haven't researched it extensively, but for what I've read (and not just in works of fiction, whether based in fact or not), they killed them all the men. Actually, I don't know for certain what they did with women and children, if they were enslaved or assimilated in the new society, so I won't make any more such pronouncements on the subject.

13 posted on 01/30/2007 6:58:14 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Tolik
...the Gandhi-esque Hindus, Buddhists and Sufis...

Such people did exist - the Left's mistake is in assuming that because the Book in question advocates a peaceful philosophy, all people who lived under its laws were paragons of pacifism. Most humans aren't very spiritual and thus let their egos and minds drive their decision-making, so it's no shock to see nominal Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, or even Christians butchering each other, no matter what their Books call for.

14 posted on 01/30/2007 6:58:40 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Tolik
Excellent article as well as recommending an excellent book. Wade's Before the Dawn represents a giant leap forward in understanding prehistoric Man. It shows what can be learned when different scientific disciplines talk to one another, in this case anthropology and genetics. Of course the YECers dismiss it out of hand, but the genetic part of the synthesis supports significant portions of the Old Testament in terms of bloodlines.
15 posted on 01/30/2007 7:02:32 AM PST by RebelBanker (May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.)
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To: Tanniker Smith

We know what the Aztec, Maya and Incas did.........


16 posted on 01/30/2007 7:03:53 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: Tanniker Smith

One of the reasons the Cherokee nation was so large, powerful and growing was their habit of subsuming other tribes. Captured Creeks became Cherokee or died--same with Lumbee and many smaller and weaker tribes. It was a kind of ethnic cleansing or forced conversion--


17 posted on 01/30/2007 7:05:27 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Amos the Prophet; Tolik

Genesis 6:11
The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

Genesis 6:13
And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.


18 posted on 01/30/2007 7:07:48 AM PST by Red Badger (Rachel Carson is responsible for more deaths than Adolf Hitler...............)
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To: freedomfiter2
It's interesting to note that the Americas had no slavery before the Europeans and Africans came over.

Aztec - Slavery....... Slaves or tlacotin (distinct from war captives) also constituted an important class. This slavery was very different from what Europeans of the same period were to establish in their colonies, although it had much in common with the slaves of classical antiquity. (Sahagún doubts the appropriateness even of the term "slavery" for this Aztec institution.) First, slavery was personal, not hereditary: a slave's children were free. A slave could have possessions and even own other slaves. Slaves could buy their liberty, and slaves could be set free if they were able to show they had been mistreated or if they had children with or were married to their masters....... Typically, upon the death of the master, slaves who had performed outstanding services were freed. The rest of the slaves were passed on as part of an inheritance....... Another rather remarkable method for a slave to recover liberty was described by Manuel Orozco y Berra in La civilización azteca (1860): if, at the tianquiztli (marketplace; the word has survived into modern-day Spanish as "tianguis"), a slave could escape the vigilance of his or her master, run outside the walls of the market and step on a piece of human excrement, he could then present his case to the judges, who would free him. He or she would then be washed, provided with new clothes (so that he or she would not be wearing clothes belonging to the master), and declared free. Because, in stark contrast to the European colonies, a person could be declared a slave if he or she attempted to prevent the escape of a slave (unless that person were a relative of the master), others would not typically help the master in preventing the slave's escape........ Orozco y Berra also reports that a master could not sell a slave without the slave's consent, unless the slave had been classified as incorrigible by an authority. (Incorrigibility could be determined on the basis of repeated laziness, attempts to run away, or general bad conduct.) Incorrigible slaves were made to wear a wooden collar, affixed by rings at the back. The collar was not merely a symbol of bad conduct: it was designed to make it harder to run away through a crowd or through narrow spaces. ....... When buying a collared slave, one was informed of how many times that slave had been sold. A slave who was sold four times as incorrigible could be sold to be sacrificed; those slaves commanded a premium in price........ However, if a collared slave managed to present him- or herself in the royal palace or in a temple, he or she would regain liberty........ An Aztec could become a slave as a punishment. A murderer sentenced to death could instead, upon the request of the wife of his victim, be given to her as a slave. A father could sell his son into slavery if the son was declared incorrigible by an authority. Those who did not pay their debts could also be sold as slaves........ People could sell themselves as slaves. They could stay free long enough to enjoy the price of their liberty, about twenty blankets, usually enough for a year; after that time they went to their new master. Usually this was the destiny of gamblers and of old ahuini (courtesans or prostitutes). ....... Motolinía reports that some captives, future victims of sacrifice, were treated as slaves with all the rights of an Aztec slave until the time of their sacrifice, but it is not clear how they were kept from running away.

19 posted on 01/30/2007 7:10:30 AM PST by Polybius
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To: Red Badger
We know what the Aztec, Maya and Incas did.........

When they said, "Have a heart," they meant it!

20 posted on 01/30/2007 7:12:48 AM PST by Socratic (A family is more than a matter of genetics.)
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