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The Conservative Case for Duncan Hunter
TownHall.com ^ | 2/2/07 | John Hawkins

Posted on 02/02/2007 10:39:18 AM PST by Antoninus

If you're looking for someone who can represent the conservative wing of the Republican Party in 2008, California Congressman Duncan Hunter fills that bill far better that any of the top contenders who have already gotten into the race. Here's a short, but sweet primer that may help explain why that's the case.

In this Oct. 30, 2006, file photo, Rep. Duncan Hunter, R-Calif., speaks at a news conference. Hunter, best known for his advocacy on behalf of the military, launched a longshot bid for the presidency Thursday in South Carolina. (AP Photo/Denis Poroy)

He Is The "National Security Candidate."

If you're looking for a candidate with credibility on national security issues, Duncan Hunter is your guy. Hunter is a hawkish, former Vietnam veteran who "served in the 173rd Airborne and 75th Army Rangers" and earned a Bronze Star. His son also served two tours in Iraq as a Marine, so we're talking about a guy who has had "skin in the game" over in Mesopotamia. Additionally, Hunter served on the House Armed Services Committee and rose to the rank of Chairman before the Democrat takeover in 2006.

So, when it comes to foreign policy issues like Iraq, we're talking about a candidate who oozes credibility. But, has he done an about face on Iraq now that the polls are against it? No, he strongly supports the surge and he had this to say about how he views the war in Iraq when I interviewed him back in December:

"Well, the U.S. is following in the same basic pattern that we've followed for 60 years in expanding freedom around the world. (The first step is) that we stand up a free government and we've done that in Iraq.

The second step is we stand up a military capable of protecting that government and the third step is the U.S. leaves. We followed that pattern in Japan and the Philippines and Salvadore and our own hemisphere and it's been the traditional and the effective method of this country spreading freedom around the world."

In my opinion, that's probably a better, simple explanation of what we're doing than George Bush has given in the last couple of years.

Good Fences Make Good Neighbors

Duncan Hunter has been one of the Republican House leaders in the fight against illegal immigration. Not only is Hunter the primary mover and shaker behind the San Diego border fence, he "wrote the Secure Fence Act" which George Bush signed into law in late October of last year.

Yet, Hunter has managed to avoid some of the harsh rhetoric that sometimes gets other tough-on-illegal-immigration pols in trouble. For example, in our interview last year, Hunter emphasized how important it is to get a fence up in order to prevent illegal immigrants from being killed as they cross the border:

"The first piece is that the major part of the fence is to be built between Calexico, California and Douglas, Arizona and that portion, that's 392 miles, that's the area through which most of the people come who have died of dehydration or sunstroke in the desert sun in the summer months.

So one provision that we put in there is that we have to have at least interlocking cameras...before the hot season, so there's a humanitarian dimension to this and that's something that's been missed by many of the liberals."

His Trade Position May Be a "Bug" To Republicans, But It Can Be A "Feature" To Democrats

There is one area in particular where Duncan Hunter departs from the conservative orthodoxy and that's on trade issues. He's neither a fan of free trade agreements like NAFTA and CAFTA, nor does he think we're getting a square deal on trade from China.

Although many Republicans will disagree with Hunter on this issue, many Democrats find themselves nodding their heads in agreement with what he has to say. In important electoral-vote-rich states like Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, Hunter's message will resonate with working class Democrats who might not otherwise vote Republican. That could be the crucial factor that swings an election in our favor in 2008.

All This And He's Socially Conservative, Too

There have been a lot of complaints that the two front-runners for the GOP nomination, John McCain and Rudy Giuliani, have little to offer to social conservatives who are going to have to turn out in 2008 if the GOP has a chance to win.

On the other hand, Duncan Hunter is opposed to gay marriage, staunchly anti-abortion, and should have no problem appealing to conservative Christians. As a matter of fact, Hunter has even introduced the, "Right to Life Act (which) specifically acknowledges the personhood of the unborn." Hunter says that bill, if passed, "would allow us to have a reversal of the effects of Roe v. Wade without a constitutional amendment."

He Has Lots Of Mileage, But No Heavy Baggage

One of the things that's becoming apparent about the top contenders in the race for the Republican nomination is that all of them have some extremely heavy baggage. We've got divorces, adulterers galore, candidates whom much of the party won't support for one reason or another, a candidate who will be 72 in 2008, and another one, who, unfortunately, may lose a considerable amount of support because of his religious beliefs. Now, Hunter? He has been married once, has no significant scandals to live down, and there don't appear to be any other major minuses that will cost him a few percentage points at election time. Could he have some scandal in his closet that we know nothing about? Maybe, but that's the case with any politician. At the moment, he looks very good on this front compared to the top contenders.

Furthermore, Duncan Hunter was first elected to Congress back in 1980. In a post 9/11 world, a Vietnam vet with 25+ years of experience in government makes a nice contrast to the trio of lightweights who are fighting for the Democrat nomination (Obama, 2 years in the Senate, Edwards, 6 years in the Senate, and Clinton, 6 years in the Senate). If there were another 9/11, with whom would you feel more comfortable in the Oval Office, John Edwards, who'd probably curl up in the fetal position under his desk, or a guy like Duncan Hunter, who has been around the block a few times?

To Know Him Is To Love Him, Or At Least To Like Him Better Than McCain

When you're taking a look at a 2nd tier candidate like Duncan Hunter, who has minimal name recognition at the national level, the first thing most people will think is, "Good, bad, it doesn't matter if he can't capture the nomination." That's a fair point. But, there have been a couple of indications that Hunter has what it takes to catch on.

The first was a mid-January "straw poll of Republican precinct committeemen" in Maricopa County, Arizona. Hunter took first place. He also did surprisingly well, given his lack of name recognition, in a poll of right-of-center bloggers. In that poll, Hunter drew the fourth highest level of support and when the level of opposition to each candidate was subtracted from that person’s support, Hunter actually came in second place.

Notice that in both cases, you have two groups of extremely well informed, conservative participants, that are probably several months ahead of the general public in knowledge about the candidates and in both cases, Hunter did very well. That's a strong indication that if Hunter can get his name out there, he can compete with the top tier candidates in the race.

Conclusion:

Granted, it's a little too early to endorse any candidate, Duncan Hunter included. After all, we don't know all the candidates that will be running yet and they haven't even had the first debate.

Moreover, there are a lot of different positions that many of the candidates have yet to take a stance on one way or the other. For example, there are 2nd Amendment issues. Hunter is "near perfect" there. A Balanced Budget Amendment? He supports it. What sort of judges would candidates appoint to the bench? Hunter would prefer someone like Scalia. Pardoning Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean? Hunter thinks that is the right thing to do. School vouchers, the missile defense shield, a 2/3 majority in Congress to raise taxes? Hunter is in favor of all of them.

Does that mean other candidates won't end up taking those same positions? No. Does it mean Hunter is perfect? No. But, when you compare Duncan Hunter to everyone else in the race right now, he looks very appealing. In the end, maybe that won't matter because Hunter won't get any traction, but I, for one, hope that conservatives will take a good, long look at Hunter before they make a decision on which candidate to support in 2008.

Mr. Hawkins is a professional blogger who runs Right Wing news and Conservative Grapevine, both of which are conservative blogs. He also writes a weekly column for Townhall.com. You can e-mail him at johnhawkins -at- rightwingnews.com


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservative; duncanhunter; election2008; electionpresident; illegalimmigration; president; wot
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To: taxed2death
You would not be able to go out and buy a brand new HD today if Reagan let that company go "unprotected".

Why not?

321 posted on 02/04/2007 8:56:05 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

Because HD would not have survived.


322 posted on 02/05/2007 4:46:16 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
Because HD would not have survived.

Why not?

323 posted on 02/05/2007 6:57:58 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

because the Japanese were flooding the market with 750cc+ bikes and AMF was building crappy bikes...


324 posted on 02/05/2007 7:10:25 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death
because the Japanese were flooding the market with 750cc+ bikes and AMF was building crappy bikes...

So the consumer doesn't lose when instead of the Japanese bike he wants, he's stuck instead with "crappy bikes"?

325 posted on 02/05/2007 10:58:39 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Nope, The tariff enabled Willie G Davidson the time and opportunity to buy back controlling shares of HD, and thus rebuild the company's reputation and bring it up to to it's position today.

Despite what you think, no one "suffered".

Amazing hugh?

Your formulaic approach and knee jerk reaction against a degree of protectionism for a specific time period shows that you "anti-tariff" people can't see the trees because of the forest.

When you factor in the hundreds of millions of dollars that the Registered Harley Davidson Brand sells each and every year in motorcycles, clothing, use of registered trademarks (Ford's Harley Edition pick up truck)....not to mention the tens of thousands of people employed worldwide making such products....any rational thinking human would have to agree that tariffs are indeed good and a useful tool in certain instances.
326 posted on 02/05/2007 11:08:18 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: Jim 0216
Nope, The tariff enabled Willie G Davidson the time and opportunity to buy back controlling shares of HD, and thus rebuild the company's reputation and bring it up to to it's position today.

Despite what you think, no one "suffered".

Amazing hugh?

Your formulaic approach and knee jerk reaction against a degree of protectionism for a specific time period shows that you "anti-tariff" people can't see the trees because of the forest.

When you factor in the hundreds of millions of dollars that the Registered Harley Davidson Brand sells each and every year in motorcycles, clothing, use of registered trademarks (Ford's Harley Edition pick up truck)....not to mention the tens of thousands of people employed worldwide making such products....any rational thinking human would have to agree that tariffs are indeed good and a useful tool in certain instances.
327 posted on 02/05/2007 11:08:35 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: zbigreddogz

So who are you backing?


328 posted on 02/05/2007 11:13:02 AM PST by MattinNJ (Duncan Hunter for President in '08.)
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To: MattinNJ

I'm not 100% behind anybody right now, but I'm leaning toward Romney.

I'll assure you one thing: He won't have spent his entire adult life in Congress, he won't be a protectionist, and he won't have the chance of being elected as I do of being named Ms. Saudi Arabia.


329 posted on 02/05/2007 11:24:54 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: taxed2death

You are making the incorrect assumption that nobody can do what HD does. In truth, lots could, and had we actually allowed the free market to operate, someone else would have stepped up and provided that need. It might have even been that some smart, rich investor would have realized that the HD brand name was still worth something, and saved it without government intervention that creates higher prices for everyone.


330 posted on 02/05/2007 11:28:59 AM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: taxed2death
The tariff enabled Willie G Davidson the time and opportunity to buy back controlling shares of HD, and thus rebuild the company's reputation and bring it up to to it's position today.

How did the tariff enable this to happen? (Also, let's see if we can can have what at least I consider to be an interesting discussion without personal attacks.)

331 posted on 02/05/2007 11:41:54 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216

...by slowing down the flow of jap bikes (750cc+) flowing into the US. Again, can you point out a single consumer that was hurt by this?
Have you met one? I havn't and I've been in the Motorcycle business for about 20 years now...


332 posted on 02/05/2007 11:53:38 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: zbigreddogz

"It might have even been that some smart, rich investor would have realized that the HD brand name was still worth something, and saved it without government intervention that creates higher prices for everyone."

or maybe not.

Witness Benelli, still floundering after "someone" bought the name"

Same with MV Agusta.

Same with Bimota

Same with Laverda.

or for a real laugh Indian motorcycles.


333 posted on 02/05/2007 11:57:00 AM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: zbigreddogz
...or better yet...maybe we can get a wealthy American GROUP of investors say.... like TPG....to buy a controlling interest in a motorcycle company...like...ummm, Ducati !

Then we can watch them take a premiere marque, Mcdonaldize it, do away with it's distinctive corporate logo, change it to Helvetica Bold, hire a fooking FRENCH designer to take one of the most GROUNDBREAKING motorcycle designs ever (916)...and screw it up so bad (999) that they (Ducati) had to ship the leftover europen 998's back to the US to help with the downward sales that Ducati was suffering because of the French rolling abortion called the 999.

Then, let's split the market, confound the parts suppliers and flood the market with multi sequenced models of the SAME line (M-600, M-620, M-750, M-900, M-S2, S3 and finally S4) thus spreading themselves WAYYYYY to thin for the amount of POTENTIAL Ducati buyers out there.

In short, let's get some investors to destroy a great company.

Thank G_D the Italians bought back the controlling interest in Ducati.

The Italians KNOW one thing and one thing only... how to win races. If they (Ducati) win WSB and GP-1 races... their sales will flourish (like they did all through the 90's.
The Americans just think bass-ackwards and try to shove a Duck down everyones throat...try to do a slick Madison ave job...and ruin a company.

Thank God for the Italians and Troy Bayliss, they're setting things right again.
334 posted on 02/05/2007 1:59:28 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: zbigreddogz
Romney has no shot. By the time the MSM gets done with Mormons, they'll make Scientology seem like a main stream religion. I remember listening to Howard Stern interview Rickey Schroeder (kid star-NYPD Blue) who is a conservative Mormon. Schroeder admitted that Mormons wear holy underwear.

Rudy has the early lead but is too liberal for many conservatives. McCain is fading fast. Newt has personal image problems. Romney is unelectable.

I'll admit that Hunter is my favorite. I grew up around NYC and would have no trouble if Rudy got elected. I believe Newt is the most articulate conservative and would look forward to a debate between him and Hillary.

That being said, it seems like every GOP candidate has one leg of the stool missing.

335 posted on 02/05/2007 2:00:08 PM PST by MattinNJ (Duncan Hunter for President in '08.)
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To: taxed2death
In short, let's get some investors to destroy a great company.

Yah Goddamn it! F*&k free markets! The US government folks know it's a good company and it must be saved! Free markets be damned!

336 posted on 02/05/2007 2:05:54 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: MattinNJ

Fortunately for me, Americans aren't nearly as bigoted on religious matters as you seem to think they are.


337 posted on 02/05/2007 2:07:11 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

hey....yap all ya want... it saved HD and there's no arguing that FACT.
:)


338 posted on 02/05/2007 2:21:49 PM PST by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: taxed2death

No, there is no arguing the fact.

That does not prove that it wouldn't have been saved anyway. It does not prove that the American public is better off because of it. And it CERTAINLY doesn't prove that even if they were better off in this unique situation, that it is the usual case.

Saying that protectionism did good once is like saying raising taxes was good once. Still doesn't mean it's a good idea 99.9% of the time, and I don't trust someone who does it. Protectionism is nothing but a hidden tax.


339 posted on 02/05/2007 2:25:26 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz

A Catholic could barely get elected. What makes you think a Mormon could? I like Romney, could care less if he worshipped Zeuss, and think he would do well in Mass and Mich.-maybe not win, but make the Dems spend $ there. I just don't think a mormon has a shot.


340 posted on 02/05/2007 2:31:53 PM PST by MattinNJ (Duncan Hunter for President in '08.)
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