(Duncan) Hunter's Promise

RCP ^ | 2/2/07 | Tom Bevan

[pissant]

As president, I will complete the border fence in six months."

[Monterrosa-24]

Oh and Reagan was deemed too old in 1980. You cite Harrison but one could go all the way back to Washington and find no nominee as old as Reagan. Plus he carried all that Bonzo baggage. There had never been a divorced Prez before Reagan.

Oh it is easy to say in hindsight that it was Reagan's destiny but I was in the trenches for Reagan as a paid field man and remember January of 1980 as a pretty rough time.

[LS]

We need someone who can get elected first and foremost. We have millions of people who "think right," and none of 'em get past the primary. Let's not be so ridiculous that we lose all perspective of what it takes to win an election in the U.S., especially a presidential election.

I got a real lesson in this with a friend running for the OHIO legislature, who got creamed. "Right" positions aren't even close to being enough.

[NathanR]

Reagan was well known as an actor and presenter on Death Valley Days, well before he became governor of California. As governor he was able to show that he had the "Right Stuff" during the Viet Nam War.

The only things that Duncan Hunter has shown are empty words, leavened with votes. I have no idea if he can delegate authority, and can get together a team to run his Cabinet. For all I know he might be the Right's version of Jimmy Carter.

[jdsteel]

The hard-core criminals don't go to jobs. They steal, rape and murder.

[upsdriver]

If you run on that issue and win, you have power to get the funding. The people have spoken!

[ElPatriota]

..•A hard line on illegal immigration. •Cracking down on countries, mainly China, that he says are killing American manufacturing with unfair trade policies. •Unwavering support for a strong military and for the war in Iraq, including President Bush's addition of more than 20,000 U.S. troops.

You know, even if it takes him 4 years!... What's important here is "the attitude" of someone who HAS ALREADY DONE A LOT even if just as congressman. That to me means CREDIBILITY!

As supposed to BS of someone who just tells you what you want to hear at the proper time... Which is what I expect from your average politicians I am sad to say. Conviction is not something I expect from politicians... I hope we the people, raise the standars on the king people we elect.

I am the HUNTER... I am not just a talker... I have a record!... Take a good look!

:)

[LS]

True, but Reagan was/is in NO WAY comparable to Hunter.

1) RR had established himself as a national presence for 20 years before running in 1976 and barely losing the GOP nomination.

2) From his position as governor and on TV and in movies, RR was a household name. I guarantee you, DH isn't even a California-wide name.

3) RR had built up a vast network---which you allude to---of grass roots support from his 1976 run, including "chits" that politicians everywhere owed him. GW Bush spent two years currying the favor of governors and state party machinery before he ran, as did Clinton.

[upsdriver]

There's time to get noticed. Stars are created these days in a nanosecond.

[RightWhale]

There's a thousand old farts like that in this town.

[TheKidster]

Too true, here's a great example.
I heard this guy call into Boortz and he was talking about conservative candidates. Boortz asked him which Pubbies had thier act together enough to be worth considering and he says McCain!?! Then Boortz points out McCain's anti free speech bill and the guy had no idea. He also mentioned that he is a Libertarian or usually votes that way when Boortz said he'd probably vote Lib instead of R.

People just have no idea. All they remember is the name the MSM throws out over and over and over.

When the Media shuts out all of the conservative candidates and only gives mention to McLame, Rudy and Romney that's all most people will know.
You nailed it.

[LS]

Lessee, if I'm not mistaken, Bush ran on the war and won in 2004. Now he is facing a virtual de-funding of the war, and opposition everywhere.

But it's a moot point. This guy has zero chance, and it has to do with the fact that he is a novice and obviously hasn't thought through what it takes to seriously run for president the way GW Bush, Ronald Reagan, and even Bill Clinton did. Now, if he's doing all this for 2012 or beyond, then it makes sense.

[onyx]

Big ole BUMP.

[upsdriver]

Fences are one answer.

[kjo]

All of what you say is true; it still does not explain how in any way, shape, or form Hunter today compares even to Reagan in January, 1980. RR was the near-nominee in '76. He had lots and lots of press coverage; most of it was negative. But his name recognition was very high.

Guaranteed: 95% of the American people have never heard of Duncan Hunter.

How's he going to overcome that? Especially given that the liberal media is not going to help.

[RightWhale]

Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman were already famous for stuff they had done in public service before they got anywhere near the White House.

[Texas Songwriter]

Duncan needs to stay on message. This is the message which will produce a win of the Presidency.

[upsdriver]

No, it helps to be inscrutably honest, too. It seemed that Ohio GOP had a real problem with that.

[upsdriver]

That doesn't mean you should dismiss him out of hand!

[kjo]

You are dreaming.

If Duncan Hunter is elected President of the US in 2008 I will wager my entire life savings of just over $300,000 against a bet on your part of $100.00.

Do we have a bet?

[tumblindice]

Right down the line: Hunter's position/GOP position/Democrat position
1/12/07 Vote 23: H R 4: Medicare Prescription Drug Price Negotiation Act No No Yes
1/10/07 Vote 18: H R 2: Fair Minimum Wage Act No No Yes
1/9/07 Vote 15: H R 1: Implementing the 9/11 Commission Recommendations Act No No Yes
9/29/06 Vote 508: S 3930: Military Commissions Act Yes Yes No
9/28/06 Vote 502: H R 5825: Electronic Surveillance Modernization Act Yes Yes No
9/14/06 Vote 446: H R 6061: Secure Fence Act of 2006 Yes Yes No
7/29/06 Vote 425: H R 5970: Estate Tax and Extension of Tax Relief Act Yes Yes No
6/16/06 Vote 288: H RES 861: This vote pledged support for the War in Iraq and rejected a timetable for the withdrawal of U.S. troops. Yes Yes No
5/10/06 Vote 135: H R 4297: Extended the Bush tax cuts. Yes Yes No
2/1/06 Vote 4: H RES 653: Cut nearly $40 billion from the federal budget by imposing substantial changes on welfare, child support and student lending programs. Yes Yes No
12/16/05 Vote 661: H R 4437: This bill would clamp down on illegal immigration and toughen border security. It does not include any new avenue for current illegal immigrants to gain legal status. Yes Yes No
12/14/05 Vote 630: H R 2863: Supported a ban on cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment of detainees held by U.S. forces and to requires the military to follow the Army field manual for interrogations. No No Yes
9/29/05 Vote 506: H R 3824: Would have forced the government to compensate property owners if development plans were stymied by attempts to protect endangered species and would have given political appointees more power to make decisions about which species and areas would be subject to government intervention aimed at protecting plant and wildlife. Yes Yes No
7/28/05 Vote 445: H R 6: Offered tax breaks and incentives in what supporters said was an effort to spur oil and gas companies to provide innovative wasy to reduce the nation's dependence on foreign oil, conserve resources and reduce pollution. Yes Yes No
7/28/05 Vote 443: H R 3045: Established a free trade zone between the United States, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Gautemala, Honduras and Nicaragua; a separate agreement with the Dominican Republican was also included in the measure. No Yes No
6/22/05 Vote 296: H J RES 10: This vote approved the proposal of a Constitutional amendment to ban the desecration of the American flag. The same bill was later defeated in the Senate. Yes Yes No
6/15/05 Vote 258: H R 2862 No No Yes
5/24/05 Vote 204: H R 810: Would have repealed restrictions on federal spending on embryonic stem cell research. No No Yes
3/21/05 Vote 90: S 686: Gave federal courts jurisdiction in the Terri Schiavo dispute. Not Voting Yes No
1/4/05 Vote 6: H RES 5: Instituted a number of changes in the ethics rules that govern the conduct of individual members of Congress. Yes Yes No

Duncan Hunter Yes..Yes..Yes