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Waterless planets surprise astronomers
AP on Yahoo ^ | 2/21/07 | Seth Borenstein - ap

Posted on 02/21/2007 11:40:53 AM PST by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - Scientists taking their first "sniffs of air" from planets outside our solar system are a bit baffled by what they didn't find: water.

One of the more basic assumptions of astronomy is that the two distant, hot gaseous planets they examined must contain water in their atmospheres. The two suns the planets orbit closely have hydrogen and oxygen, the stable building blocks of water. These planets' atmospheres — examined for the first time using light spectra to determine the air's chemical composition — are supposed to be made up of the same thing, good old H2O.

But when two different teams of astronomers used NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope for this new type of extrasolar planet research, they both came up dry, according to research published in Thursday's edition of Nature and the online version of the Astrophysical Journal Letters.

The study of one planet found hints of fine silicate-particle clouds. Research on the other planet found no chemical fingerprints for any of the molecules scientists were seeking.

"We had expected this tremendous signature of water ... and it wasn't there," said the study leader for one team, Carl Grillmair of the California Institute of Technology and Spitzer Science Center. "The very fact that we've been surprised here is a wake-up call. We obviously need to do some more work."

Grillmair's colleague, Harvard astronomy professor David Charbonneau, said these surprising "sniffs of air from an alien world" tell astronomers not to be so Earth-centric in thinking about other planets.

"These are very different beasts. These are unlike any other planets in the solar system," Charbonneau said. "We're limited by our imagination in thinking about the different avenues that these atmospheres take place in."

Our own solar system has two planets without water in the atmosphere, Grillmair noted: Mercury, which doesn't have an atmosphere, and Venus, which is a different type of planet from the huge gaseous ones that would be expected to have the components of water in the air.

So far, scientists have found 213 planets outside our solar system, but only 14 have orbits that make it possible for this type of study; only eight or nine of those are close enough to see. Grillmair's team studied the closest, which goes by the catchy name HD 189733b. It's a mere 360 trillion miles from Earth in the constellation Vulpecula. The other planet, HD209458b, is about 900 trillion miles away in the constellation Pegasus and it's the one with the strange silicate cloud.

So where'd the water go?

Maybe it's hiding, scientists suggest. The water could be under dust clouds, or all the airborne water molecules have the same temperature, making it impossible to see using an infrared spectrograph. Or maybe it's just not there and astronomers have to go back to the drawing board when it comes to these alien planets.

The other finding on the more distant of the two planets seems to indicate that the atmosphere is full of silicon-oxygen compounds, said study lead author L. Jeremy Richardson of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center.

"They'd be like dust grains and they would form clouds," Richardson said. And that cloud of silicates could be blocking the space telescope from measuring lower-lying water, Richardson and other scientists said.


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KEYWORDS: astronomers; astronomy; hd189733b; hd209458b; nasa; planets; science; silicates; spitzer; spitzertelescope; surprise; waterless; xplanets
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1 posted on 02/21/2007 11:40:54 AM PST by NormsRevenge
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On the Net:

Spitzer Space Telescope: http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/

Nature: http://www.nature.com.

The Astrophysical Journal Letters: http://www.journals.uchicago.edu/ApJ/rapid.html


2 posted on 02/21/2007 11:41:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

Are there or could there be silica-based lifeforms?

hmmmm.


3 posted on 02/21/2007 11:44:23 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge
It's true!
4 posted on 02/21/2007 11:46:32 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (Without the Media, the Left and Islamofacists are Nothing.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Call Al Gore! This can only be a result of...

SOLAR SYSTEM WARNING!!!!!


5 posted on 02/21/2007 11:48:12 AM PST by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamofascist Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: NormsRevenge
when two different teams of astronomers used NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope for this new type of extrasolar planet research, they both came up dry

Extrasolar blue laws.

6 posted on 02/21/2007 11:50:33 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"The study of one planet found hints of fine silicate-particle clouds. Research on the other planet found no chemical fingerprints for any of the molecules scientists were seeking.

"We had expected this tremendous signature of water ... and it wasn't there"

The question arises why they weren't doing a full search for all detectable molecules.

They're becoming like that kid who's still looking for a pony.


7 posted on 02/21/2007 11:53:14 AM PST by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Water is only on this created earth. Man will go to any length to prove this wrong, science has not produced one drop outside of earth.


8 posted on 02/21/2007 11:57:05 AM PST by Uncle George
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To: NormsRevenge

That idea makes good Star Trek episodes but in reality the carbon atom is the only one with ability to form the complex stable molecules necessary for amino acids and other life essential building blocks.


9 posted on 02/21/2007 11:59:39 AM PST by TheKidster (.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Waterless planets surprise astronomers"



What is even stranger is we still have "Dry Counties" right here in our own country.


10 posted on 02/21/2007 11:59:50 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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Vulpecula
Planetary nebula M27

The Dumbbell Nebula M27 was the first planetary nebula ever discovered. On July 12, 1764, Charles Messier discovered this new and fascinating class of objects, and describes this one as an oval nebula without stars. The name "Dumb-bell" goes back to the description by John Herschel, who also compared it to a "double-headed shot."

11 posted on 02/21/2007 12:02:51 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge; SunkenCiv; KevinDavis

Exoplanet ping.


12 posted on 02/21/2007 12:04:31 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Uncle George
Water is only on this created earth. Man will go to any length to prove this wrong, science has not produced one drop outside of earth.

And the water on Mars and the Moon was delivered by FedEx?

 

13 posted on 02/21/2007 12:05:06 PM PST by azcap
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NASA's Spitzer First To Crack Open Light of Faraway Worlds

http://www.spitzer.caltech.edu/Media/releases/ssc2007-04/release.shtml

For Release: February 21, 2007

NASA's Spitzer Space Telescope has captured for the first time enough light from planets outside our solar system, known as exoplanets, to identify signatures of molecules in their atmospheres. The landmark achievement is a significant step toward being able to detect possible life on rocky exoplanets and comes years before astronomers had anticipated.

"This is an amazing surprise," said Spitzer project scientist Dr. Michael Werner of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. "We had no idea when we designed Spitzer that it would make such a dramatic step in characterizing exoplanets."

Spitzer, a space-based infrared telescope, obtained the detailed data, called spectra, for two different gas exoplanets. Called HD 209458b and HD 189733b, these so-called "hot Jupiters" are, like Jupiter, made of gas, but orbit much closer to their suns.

The data indicate the two planets are drier and cloudier than predicted. Theorists thought hot Jupiters would have lots of water in their atmospheres, but surprisingly none was found around HD 209458b and HD 189733b. According to astronomers, the water might be present but buried under a thick blanket of high, waterless clouds.

Those clouds might be filled with dust. One of the planets, HD 209458b, showed hints of tiny sand grains, called silicates, in its atmosphere. This could mean the planet's skies are filled with high, dusty clouds unlike anything seen around planets in our own solar system.

"The theorists' heads were spinning when they saw the data," said Dr. Jeremy Richardson of NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md.

"It is virtually impossible for water, in the form of vapor, to be absent from the planet, so it must be hidden, probably by the dusty cloud layer we detected in our spectrum," he said. Richardson is lead author of a Nature paper appearing Feb. 22 that describes a spectrum for HD 209458b.

In addition to Richardson's team, two other groups of astronomers used Spitzer to capture spectra of exoplanets. A team led by Dr. Carl Grillmair of NASA's Spitzer Science Center at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, Calif., observed HD 189733b, while a team led by Dr. Mark R. Swain of JPL focused on the same planet in the Richardson study, and came up with similar results. Grillmair's results will be published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters. Swain's findings have been submitted to the Astrophysical Journal Letters.

A spectrum is created when an instrument called a spectrograph splits light from an object into its different wavelengths, just as a prism turns sunlight into a rainbow. The resulting pattern of light, the spectrum, reveals "fingerprints" of chemicals making up the object.

Until now, the only planets for which spectra were available belonged in our own solar system. The planets in the Spitzer studies orbit stars that are so far away, they are too faint to be seen with the naked eye. HD 189733b is 370 trillion miles away in the constellation Vulpecula, and HD 209458b is 904 trillion miles away in the constellation Pegasus. That means both planets are at least about a million times farther away from us than Jupiter. In the future, astronomers hope to have spectra for smaller, rocky planets beyond our solar system. This would allow them to look for the footprints of life -- molecules key to the existence of life, such as oxygen and possibly even chlorophyll.

"With these new observations, we are refining the tools that we will one day need to find life elsewhere if it exists," said Swain. "It's sort of like a dress rehearsal."

Spitzer was able to tease out spectra from the feeble light of the two planets through what is known as the "secondary eclipse" technique. In this method -- first used by Spitzer in 2005 to directly detect the light from an exoplanet for the first time -- a so-called transiting planet is monitored as it circles behind its star, temporarily disappearing from our Earthly point of view. By measuring the dip in infrared light that occurs when the planet disappears, Spitzer can learn how much light is coming solely from the planet. The technique will work only in infrared wavelengths, where the planet is brighter than in visible wavelengths and stands out better next to the overwhelming glare of its star.

In the new studies, Spitzer's spectrograph, which measures infrared light at a range of wavelengths, stared at the two transiting planets as they orbited their stars. This allowed the astronomers to subtract the spectra of the stars from the spectra of the planets plus their stars to obtain spectra of the planets alone.

"When we first set out to make these observations, they were considered high risk because not many people thought they would work," said Grillmair. "But Spitzer has turned out to be superbly designed and more than up to the task."

Previous observations of HD 209458b by NASA's Hubble Space Telescope revealed individual elements, such as sodium, oxygen, carbon and hydrogen, that bounce around the very top of the planet, a region higher up than that probed in the Spitzer studies and a region where molecules like water would break apart. To do this, Hubble measured changes in the light from the star, not the planet, as the planet passed in front. The observations indicated less sodium than predicted, which again supports the idea that the planet is socked in with high clouds.

Astronomers hope to use Spitzer for additional studies of transiting exoplanets, which are those that cross in front of their stars from our point view. Of the approximately 200 known exoplanets, 14 are transiting. At least three of these in addition to HD 209458b and HD 189733b are candidates for obtaining spectra. Further spectral studies of HD 209458b and HD 189733b will also yield more information about the planets' atmospheres.

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., manages the Spitzer Space Telescope mission for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. Science operations are conducted at the Spitzer Science Center at the California Institute of Technology, also in Pasadena. Caltech manages JPL for NASA. Spitzer's infrared spectrograph was built by Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y. Its development was led by Dr. Jim Houck of Cornell.


14 posted on 02/21/2007 12:05:24 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......)
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To: NormsRevenge

And we are spending tax payers money for this, has a probability of being correct somewhere near zero.


15 posted on 02/21/2007 12:07:39 PM PST by org.whodat (Never let the facts get in the way of a good assumption.)
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To: Uncle George

Huh...?

And the water ice on Mars doesn't count???

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2002/28may_marsice.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2009318.stm
http://www.esa.int/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEMGKA808BE_0.html
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/050222_mars_ice.html
http://www.lanl.gov/news/releases/archive/03-101.shtml
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap050720.html

Do you need me to on?


16 posted on 02/21/2007 12:08:15 PM PST by Freeport
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To: Uncle George
Liquid water has only been confirmed on Earth. Mars seems to have had a high probability of liquid water in the past, or even the present. As the article states, most planets in the Solar System have H2O, but as ice. Having water is not a guarantee of life--life is created by God.
17 posted on 02/21/2007 12:09:39 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: NormsRevenge

They had water.

Then Michael Moore did a cannonball dive into their ocean.


18 posted on 02/21/2007 12:12:12 PM PST by Our man in washington
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

life is created by God, or was/is/will be God's life, which wasn't created (since God's not a creature).


19 posted on 02/21/2007 12:12:28 PM PST by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: TheKidster

Ever heard of polysilanes?


20 posted on 02/21/2007 12:16:37 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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