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If tolls fall, tax may rise
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | March 2, 2007 | Gordon Dickson

Posted on 03/02/2007 1:00:55 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

AUSTIN -- Texans who are demanding that the state stop building toll roads may get their wish.

But they might not like the alternative: Higher state gas taxes.

There is broad support in Austin for increasing the state's 20-cents-a-gallon motor fuel tax , says a lawmaker leading the effort to strip the Texas Department of Transportation's authority to build toll roads and enter into agreements with private companies. The Texas gas tax has not gone up since 1991.

"The message is loud and clear. You couldn't not hear it. People want us to build roads, and they're willing to pay for it, but they're not willing to pay with tolls," said state Sen. John Carona, R-Dallas, chairman of the Senate Transportation and Homeland Security Committee.

The gas tax probably would go up a little at a time -- perhaps a penny or two every five years or so -- to keep up with the cost of building roads.

Motorists currently pay 20 cents a gallon in state tax and 18.4 cents a gallon in federal tax.

"If the gas tax is going to be the primary vehicle for paying for these roads, we have to make sure it keeps pace," Carona said.

Carona also predicted that the Trans-Texas Corridor toll road "will likely never be built" because of its high cost and political opposition.

"It's incumbent upon us as elected officials, when we're off course, to change course," Carona said.

The committee met all day Thursday and heard from more than 100 people, including dozens of Texans -- county officials, environmentalists and farmers -- demanding that laws allowing privately run toll roads be repealed.

"Can a project with this much political clout be stopped? That is my ... prayer," said Clare Easley, whose family has lived on a central Texas farm near Georgetown since the 1850s.

Tarrant projects threatened

Metroplex officials testified that the anti-toll sentiment could seriously delay many Tarrant County projects for which private bids are being sought.

"It would be devastating to Dallas-Fort Worth," even with just a two-year moratorium on toll projects, said Michael Morris, transportation director for the North Central Texas Council of Governments.

He noted that construction is scheduled to begin next year on the Texas 114/121 DFW Connector project in Grapevine and the 35W/820/183 project in Fort Worth and Northeast Tarrant County; if the laws are changed, both projects could be delayed many more years. The state intends to farm out both projects, which include the construction of toll lanes, to a private contractor.

Power struggle

Transportation Department officials are fighting to keep four years of gains in political clout. Since 2003, the agency has been allowed to use many types of financing, including debt, to build roads.

Transportation Commission member Ted Houghton of El Paso downplayed the possible rollback of power. He noted that earlier this week, the Spanish firm Cintra agreed to build and manage the Texas 121 toll road in Denton and Collin counties -- and pay $2.8 billion for Metroplex officials to use on other projects.

"What legislator is going to pooh-pooh $2.8 billion?" Houghton said.

But Jere Thompson of Dallas, a former state turnpike official and Dallas energy executive, said tolls and private investment wouldn't be necessary if the Transportation Department would spend less of its money in Austin and rural areas and more in Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston and San Antonio.

The Metroplex was shortchanged $2.8 billion from 2001-06 because it didn't receive its fair share of funds compared with other parts of Texas, he said. Transportation officials later said the figures Thompson was using didn't tell the complete story.

Transportation Commission Chairman Ric Williamson of Weatherford defended the agency's toll strategies, saying they are the result of years of inadequate state funding.

Funding essential

Williamson said there is no easy way to plan for Texas' future road needs. In the committee room, he displayed a map using Texas Data Center statistics that shows the Dallas-Fort Worth and San Antonio metropolitan areas essentially touching by 2040, as congestion stretches from Sherman to Laredo.

"We collectively in this state face a problem that transcends any problem we've faced before," Williamson said. "For 20 years, we've built virtually no increased capacity into our transportation system and our population is growing faster than any other industrial state in the nation."

The anti-toll road crowd, which had been hissing at Williamson's other comments during the day, didn't say anything about that.


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A bazillion articles from all over Texas about the TTC/Toll Road hearings
1 posted on 03/02/2007 1:00:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; AprilfromTexas; B4Ranch; B-Chan; ..

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 03/02/2007 1:01:34 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about something radical, like CUT THE F***ING SPENDING!!!!


3 posted on 03/02/2007 1:16:16 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Hydroshock
I understand the Texas Legislature has taken $10 Billion in gas taxes that were earmarked for road building and maintenance during the past 10 years and diverted the money to pay for general budget items. That is why we have no money left for roads.
4 posted on 03/02/2007 1:25:23 PM PST by BubbaBobTX (I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast as I could.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BS...tell those b*****ds to give us back the money they diverted from the 281 North overpasses to other programs, we have already paid for those roads!


5 posted on 03/02/2007 1:27:23 PM PST by ravingnutter
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

6 posted on 03/02/2007 1:34:42 PM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Thanks for your hard work, TSR! There's likely to be a bazillion more.


IMO, a lot of what's going on here is people saying, "enough is enough". They see all these stories about the pop doubling, eminent domain, illegal immigration, foreign companies and my favorite, drought and the availability of water.


I've got a suggestion that will not raise taxes or cause people to lose their land. *Population Stabilization*


The #1 complaint people, at least the ones I've talked to, is unbridled development, pollution and just too many damn non-Texans. We Texans love our state and most of us don't like seeing what's happening to it. If Mexico and the rest of the US thinks they can walk all over Texas, they got another thing coming.
7 posted on 03/02/2007 1:43:04 PM PST by wolfcreek (Happy Texas Independence Day)
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To: Hydroshock
"CUT THE F***ING SPENDING!!!!"

But Boo-hoo, it's for the childrun!™
8 posted on 03/02/2007 1:51:36 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: wolfcreek

You all could always become a rebuplic again and then restrict immigration from the U.S. and Mexico.

If I were to move to Texas, I sure wouldn't drag Maryland's politics down to your fine state. I would be trying to escape those politics!


9 posted on 03/02/2007 2:31:21 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


10 posted on 03/02/2007 2:36:07 PM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Hydroshock
How about something radical, like CUT THE F***ING SPENDING!!!!

As far as road construction and maintenance are concerned I'd say those are essential things the government does need to do.

Cutting out the graft and corruption in road construction could help reduce spending, but to some extent the roads do need to be maintained and even expanded in areas of population growth.

The costs of such construction and maintenance keeps going up, and the gas tax has remained a fixed amount per gallon rather than a percentage.

There's a lot of pork in government spending, and I'm sure that a good amount of pork could be trimmed from road construction costs, but expecting a tax of a fixed amount per gallon to continue cover the costs of the state roads despite inflation isn't realistic.

And the roads are a vital part of keeping your state economy healthy.

11 posted on 03/02/2007 3:14:22 PM PST by untrained skeptic
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Recall Perry Ping!


12 posted on 03/02/2007 3:28:31 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: hadaclueonce

Please add me to this ping list


13 posted on 03/02/2007 4:40:33 PM PST by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I've got an idea:

Instead of p%^$%ing away all that money on "mass transit" schemes, how about restricting it to what it was intended for?


14 posted on 03/02/2007 7:52:03 PM PST by Redbob
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 03/02/2007 9:57:09 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: E.G.C.

bump.


16 posted on 03/03/2007 3:06:38 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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To: Alamo-Girl

You're welcome.


17 posted on 03/03/2007 3:07:59 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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To: Redbob

I am totally in agreement with that. Gasoline taxes, tolls, and driver fees should be restricted to roads.


18 posted on 03/03/2007 3:24:49 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"You all could always become a republic again and then restrict immigration from the U.S. and Mexico."


Don't think that hasn't crossed many of our minds. Trouble is , I think We would have to go to war. Texas does have the ability to split into 5 congressional districts, giving us 5 times the power in Congress.


If We had the ability to control immigration into the state, We would definitely use a vetting process to include good Conservatives. When you figure out that, You all = Ya'll, you would be a front-runner. LOL!
19 posted on 03/03/2007 8:02:37 AM PST by wolfcreek (Happy Texas Independence Day 3.02.1836)
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To: wolfcreek

I know who Ron White is. Does that help?


20 posted on 03/03/2007 9:02:42 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (The Republican primary field SUCKS!!!)
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