Posted on 03/04/2007 3:17:05 AM PST by jmc1969
New England has long been the center of cowardice and socialism in our country. Your "views" are nothing new. Bu bye.
Absolutely a fact.
More terrorist, more to kill.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6417099.stm
Last Updated: Sunday, 4 March 2007, 13:11 GMT
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Iraq crackdown on Shia stronghold
More US troops are being sent to improve Baghdad's security
An operation involving US-led forces is under way in Baghdad's Shia stronghold of Sadr City, the US military has said.
A spokesman for the military would not confirm or deny reports that hundreds of troops were taking part.
Meanwhile five people were detained in an early-morning raid by UK and Iraqi troops in the southern city of Basra.
The raids came as Iraqi PM Nouri Maliki said he was offering an olive branch to insurgents who accepted the language of reconciliation and dialogue.
Those who did not would fall foul of a security crackdown which would "cover every inch of Iraq", he said.
We present in our hand a green olive branch, and in the other hand we present the law ... Operation Imposing Law started in Baghdad, it will cover every inch of Iraq
Nouri Maliki
Iraqi prime minister
Mr Maliki has said he will reshuffle his cabinet within the next two weeks.
No details have been given, but reports quote unnamed officials as saying he is expected to dismiss all six ministers loyal to the Shia cleric, Moqtada Sadr, who has been criticised by the United States.
Mr Maliki said political consensus could only be achieved in Iraq once the country was stable.
"We do not need to implement security measures except against those who reject the language of reconciliation and dialogue, those who insist on restoring the past," he said.
"We present in our hand a green olive branch, and in the other hand we present the law ... Operation Imposing Law started in Baghdad, it will cover every inch of Iraq."
He did not specify whether insurgents who stopped fighting would be given an amnesty.
Torture claims
Shortly after Mr Maliki's announcement, US forces entered the Sadr City district of Baghdad, as they continued to implement a major new security plan.
The US has repeatedly said that one of the keys to improving security in Iraq is to tackle Shia militias, such as the Mehdi Army, controlled by Mr Sadr.
The Associated Press news agency reported that hundreds of troops were involved in the raid.
US and Iraqi troops conducted separate house-to-house raids in the western corner of the district.
They seized any weapons that were discovered, but have so far met no resistance.
In Basra, five people were held by British and Iraqi forces on suspicion of involvement in roadside bomb attacks against the multinational forces and Iraqi civilians, as well as kidnaps, torture and murder.
As a result of information obtained, Iraqi counter-intelligence forces then raided the National Iraqi Intelligence Agency headquarters, where "further evidence of significant criminal activity such as torture" was found and a number of prisoners released.
The BBC's Jim Muir in Baghdad says the agency is not the first to be involved in allegations of torture by Shia militias.
Liz Sly (Chicago Tribune) on C-SPAN by phone from Baghdad now.
In other words, the problem is still there, and they will probably resurface to make trouble sometime in the future on their schedule.
It's no wonder they leisurely went to ground. We gave them plenty of warning and time to get out. Fighting our wars the Arab way is not going to win them for us. Instead, it will lose them for us. This is ominous as it signals we are not serious about killing the enemy, just mollifying him and not making anybody angry.
Political correctness will be the death of us all and will ultimately lose this war.
WWII was the last war we fought to win. We did whatever it took to win and after we had crushed our enemy then we were merciful, not during the conflict. In the Pacific theater in order to get prisoners to interrogate they had to give out 2 wks leave to soldiers who brought in prisoners. When the leave was no longer offered no prisoners were brought in. In order to end the war we dropped nuclear bombs, nobody made much of a ruckus out of it.
Now we have lawyers at all levels second guessing actions that were taken, or prosecuting soldiers if they didn't do something right.
Actually, that is not true at all. An insurgency depends entirely on popular support (popularity). Without it, the insurgency will fail. It is for this very reason that I believe we will be successful in Iraq; a populace coerced by insurgent violence will only support the insurgency for a limited time.
Yep, just like in Tora Bora - we waited around while tribal leaders negotiated, and we let the big fish get away. The whole WOT could have been so much different if we had fought seriously from the beginning.
Which means they'll lie low for the next 20 years. Works for me. At what point does lying low become defeated? I'll just go ahead and replace the word now. In the future, when considering the use of the phrase lying low, replaced with defeated.
The Surge is working! The terrorists and their allies are losing.
Pray for W and Our Troops
You're leading with your chin with the current one.
Cheers
Snuff Mookie!
The Surge is working. However, I hope none of you are thinking it will last beyond the length of time the Surge is taking place. It's a temporary fix, and the terrorists/insurgents know it. All we can hope for is that it entrenches enough IA and IPs (who aren't corrupt) to make a difference once troop levels return to normal.
The lack of violence in this Sadr City incursion isn't surprising either. Those were Stryker Soldiers that went in there. Hajis are terrified of Stryker Soldiers. They know we mean serious business wherever we go. It's pretty much the same wherever we go. The last people who tried to actively resist us on a large were in Najaf, and you can read about what happened to them.
Yeah, perhaps you can tell me what the ROE changes are? I haven't been made aware of any, and I'm the end-user. So please fill me in, smart guy. Also, your notion that this is "troop increase" is stupid. Guys are being extended and already scheduled deployments are being moved up. There are no "extra troops" being sent in. And the terrorists can outwait us, make no mistake.
Right war at the right time to fight radica Islam. Histroy will judge it as such.
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