Posted on 03/04/2007 9:45:43 AM PST by A_perfect_lady
Yeah, dear old dad, sitting in a gay bar, dressed up like a dime store cowboy, looking to s*** somebody's d***. Let's give him the father of the year award.
Anyone else's dad doing that last night?
Why did you post this in the religion section?
I have deep suspicions about any Freeper that hangs out in gay bars. Period.
Ann's not stupid so I'm putting it down to some calculated move. On the other hand, words are merely words.
There are smiling bank robbers who treat everyone they rob with some measure of outward respect...they are still as immoral as the ones who curse the people they rob and cuff them with their handgun.
The Founding Fathers you speak of were, for the most part, virtuous and moral men whose morality was based on Christian principles. They would have probably flogged openly homsexual individuals amongst them because they took the teachings seriously...not because they hated the individual, but because they were wise enough to recogonize what certain life-styles and behavior patterns do to individuals and societies.
The fact is, gay life styles tear down the traditional chrsitian moral standard amongst us, the family, and the society. In addition, they are unbelievable dangerous to the people who participate in them. Any serious study of the health consequences asscoiated with that life-style will bear this out. And, though I do not know of official studies that bear this out, I do know of friends on the police force in various cities who tell me that among the worst crime they come across on a genral basis, delving into out and out mayhem, come out of that community.
So, for me, this issue along with abortion and a two or three others like immigration, gun control, and national defense are all single issue for me. An individual for whom I vote will have to get them all right. All are indespensable to our contiunued prosperity, peace, and liberty and I will vote accordingly.
I do not have to be hateful to make these pronouncements or statements, but I am wholly committed to them and firm in these convictions.
There are a bazillion other issues of substance, none of which are effected by Ann's remark. Like her written remarks regarding the 9/11 widows, this one has been siezed upon and amplified as if folks concerned about the issues will change their minds. By and large they won't, and if they do their convictions eslewhere might as well be baseless. We don't expect apologies from the left when they hurl insults. Why should we expect them from the right?
Discussing politics in a bar, especially with strangers, is never a good idea.
Did I post this in the religion section?? I thought I chose "general interest" when I composed it. I'll ping the moderator and ask him to move it. Sorry about that.
Actually, we DO expect more from the left. When an extremist compares Bush to Hitler, for instance, if other liberals do not publicly decry the remark, we assume they agree.
But you can disagree with homosexuality without deliberately setting off their worse fears. My point is, many of them could be induced to vote for the same person you vote for, if they were not afraid that our hostility to them will be detrimental to their well-being if the candidate of our choice were in power.
It isn't my usual venue. This was my second time there and I'd rather hang out at a nice restaurant up on Sunset, but, as I said, I tend to want to stick with my sister whenever I can. And she, unfortunately, is not a Freeper.
Did you read the rest of my essay or just post after the first paragraph?
Did you ask anyone directly what they thought about Coulter's comment? Or are you assuming they will all be offended? I'm curious - not challenging you.
I used to talk to my gay uncle about this kind of thing when I worked for him as a teen during summers in San Francisco.
It came up mostly because my dad is fun-loving biker and a slur-a-minute kind of man, and because he's of the thinking that people are too sensitive about it all: he even has a special nickname for my hubby based on his 2 main ethnicities and that he uses when he's in an especially good loving mood. At risk of being banned by someone who thinks this is terribly offensive: it's McWop.
My gay uncle and his gay friends (oh, and the prostitutes that worked up and down the street outside the business) could have cared less about the slurs. Whether a straight friend or a stranger called them queer or what not, they enjoyed the attention. I do remember they preferred some terms over others: like queen and queer. As for Ann's word - that is what they called each other with a wink and a smile. It was all very eye-opening to say the least.
And of course, this isn't to say that ALL gays have thick skin. Some types (regardless of sexual orientation) are offended by EVERYTHING, I've learned. Like Rosie!
An interesting read. I have absolutely no problem with Annie's remarks because I know she called no one any names. Quite to the contrary, she was illustrating the hypocrisy of PC.
I imagine most homosexuals already recognize this as well...
I'm not calling for Ann to be muzzled, but I do think conservatives can make our points without sinking to middle-school slams. My opinion is that serious conservatives would do well to distance themselves from Ann's remark.
I do not and will not call it "normal". I do not support it, and am against it as a matter of course. Homsexual unions, homsexual advocacy, recognizing gays as an official sexual orientation and laws asssociated witht that, are all part and parcel of the same problem.
I do not say these things hatefully no more than I hate anyone else with what I consider to be severe emotiaonla or mental problems. If there behoavior becomes detreimental to society, then measures must bne taken to address that danger.
Today, our society, and many politicians in particular, do not want to admit the self evident and therefore rather than addressing a problem, they are being cajoled, bribed, and sweet talked into calling something bad, good or normal...or what's worse, as politicians, many are pandering to a problem simply to garner votes. It does a terrible disservice to society as a whole, and to those who are part of the life style and most adversely affected by it.
So, I do not hate the individuals, but I am firmly against the life style and see it as destructive to the very fabric of our society and therefore our peace, well being, and ultimately our liberty.
I am sure such statements will make people involved in that life style uncomfortable, particularly if their aim is to be accepted as and integrated into normal society in any case.
I read the whole thing and I disagree with your conclusions.
So exposing your sister to a lifestyle that lowers your life expectancy 20 years for cheap drinks doesn't bother you?? Perhaps you should stop throwing stones in that glass condo.
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I did not say you were hateful.
All I call for is for conservatives not to deliberately alienate gays who might be persuaded at least to help defend our country.
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