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I am shocked. Shocked that it takes a "$3 million dollar" study to see the obvious, in terms of the "management" problems of schools.
1 posted on 03/16/2007 7:06:17 PM PDT by summer
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Reading this article made me appreciate all over again how much Gov Bush mattered to this state, Florida, in terms of reforming education. We're not where we want to be in every category, but he certainly brough enormous changes to this state's schools, and didn't wait around for a $3 million dollar study to make big changes, agree with him or not.


2 posted on 03/16/2007 7:07:41 PM PDT by summer
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As usual, libs want to throw more money at socialism instead of making the structural changes required to make our education system dynamic, diverse, decentralized, and ultimately competitive.


3 posted on 03/16/2007 7:08:55 PM PDT by JHBowden (President Giuliani in 2008! Law and Order. Solid Judges. Free Markets. Killing Terrorists.)
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To: summer
Maybe it is the tons of illegal aliens who are in in the system that are making the cost skyrocket, and the test results to plummet
5 posted on 03/16/2007 7:11:19 PM PDT by ritewingwarrior
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To: summer

This has been happening for decades.


6 posted on 03/16/2007 7:11:22 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: summer

1. There is no reason reform should cost any money. Just fire the bureacracy and give control back to the localities.

2. The real answer is simply to get rid of the public schools altogether. Just give every kid a 10K voucher and in two years California will have the best schools in the world.


7 posted on 03/16/2007 7:12:13 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: summer
I went to school in California and I got a very, very good public school education.

But then, Ronald Reagan was Governor. :)

9 posted on 03/16/2007 7:12:49 PM PDT by pray4liberty (a saint is a sinner who never gave up.)
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To: Temple Owl

school choice ping


10 posted on 03/16/2007 7:12:58 PM PDT by Tribune7 (A bleeding heart does nothing but ruin the carpet)
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To: metmom

Metmom, here is yet another story of the failure of public education.

You know what to do...


12 posted on 03/16/2007 7:14:07 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (If the GOP were to stop worshiping Free Trade as if it were a religion, they'd win every election)
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To: summer

I think I need to "study" this...Please send me $3 million and I'll report back the obvious.


14 posted on 03/16/2007 7:20:10 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: summer

They needed a "report" to tell them that? These guys can't think for themselves.


17 posted on 03/16/2007 7:33:43 PM PDT by Brilliant
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More info:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1800481/posts

"Two estimates, both based on interviews with educators, estimate the cost of meeting the state's achievement goals at an additional $23 billion to $32 billion a year. It is not clear, however, whether that money would bring all students up to the federal goal of having all students proficient in reading and math by 2014."


18 posted on 03/16/2007 7:35:57 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'Chaim!)
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The State Budget for 2006-07 provides Proposition 98 funding of $55.1 billion for K-12 schools and community colleges. This is an increase of $5.1 billion above the 2005-06 Budget Act and represents the single largest year-to-year increase in education funding in the state’s history.

And it's broken??????

Providing California children with a quality education could easily cost an additional $32 billion a year -

They want more money

Researchers Thursday stressed that simply spending more money on education without overhauling the system makes no sense. In fact, they discredited an estimate in one report that the state could meet its achievement goals without reform solely by increasing spending. Such an effort could cost as much as $1.5 trillion a year, it suggested.

It's not broken, it's a liberals wet dream, a financial black hole of never ending government waste.

19 posted on 03/16/2007 7:36:54 PM PDT by A message (We who care, Can Not Fail)
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The report, financed by private nonprofit foundations

From the "project" website:

PROJECT SUPPORTERS

This independent research project was made possible by grants from The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, The James Irvine Foundation, and The Stuart Foundation.

21 posted on 03/16/2007 8:04:14 PM PDT by cgk
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Speaking as a teacher in Los Angeles, part of our problem is that we welcome with open arms thousands of illegal immigrants from Central America every year. They might be here one month and the next thing you know, they're taking the California Standards Test and scoring a ZERO on everything because they don't speak a word of English.

Then there's the little second generation hoodlums in my class who, this very day, right in front of me, simply folded their arms, put down their heads, and went to sleep on top of the test. I woke them up, urged them to do their best, and they smiled apologetically, nodded... and put their heads down again. I sent them to the counselor and she urged them to do their best and sent them back. They put their heads down again. I ... just... have to find a different job!

22 posted on 03/16/2007 8:09:20 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: summer

And in other breaking news: The sun will set in the West tomorrow.


23 posted on 03/16/2007 8:28:21 PM PDT by no dems (Herman Cain for VEEP in '08)
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To: summer

I am shocked it takes a 3 million dollar bribe to make us think they are trying to find the answer.


24 posted on 03/16/2007 8:30:59 PM PDT by freekitty
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No, I am not shocked. Outraged is more like it. I am tired of these crooks stealing our money. Like everytime the dimwits think they have some power; they spend or steal our hard earned tax dollars on silly hearings that never amount too much of anything except to point out how big they can lie.


25 posted on 03/16/2007 8:33:51 PM PDT by freekitty
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26 posted on 03/16/2007 8:42:57 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Sucky government schools? That never happens /sarcasm


30 posted on 03/16/2007 10:29:47 PM PDT by NYRepublican72
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I'd be willing to conduct the next study for 1/3rd the cost.

Thank a Union for great results in education and manufacturing.


31 posted on 03/16/2007 11:54:49 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Pelosi helped keep Garry Studds and Barney Franks in office. Pelosi must resign.)
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