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Relinquish Green Card? How crazy would a person have to be to do that?
Blog: Million For My Green Card ^ | 18-Apr-2007 | GreenCardHolder

Posted on 04/19/2007 7:15:13 AM PDT by b2bhandshake

I have blogged on this and other forums in the past about lobbying to request the U.S government to allow spouses and minor children of legal permanent residents (Green Card Holders) to come to the US while awaiting their immigration petition (I-130). I have repeatedly written to my lawmakers and to the media with little response. 

About six months ago, a friend, Oliver, who was in the same predicament decided to do the unthinkable: relinquish his green card. He went back to his native land in Germany. This set me thinking of the idea: why not ask Americans who oppose immigration to pay (even a small amount) to ‘get rid’ of Immigrants.

And unlike Oliver, I do not want to give up without a fight, or getting something in return. Hence the idea for this website : raise a ‘Million for My Green Card’ [URL: MillionForMyGreenCard.com] or FAQ


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The question to you?
Would you be willing to support my campaign? OR would you be willing to contribute to have one immigrant less in America?
1 posted on 04/19/2007 7:15:15 AM PDT by b2bhandshake
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To: b2bhandshake

Green card holders aren’t the problem.


2 posted on 04/19/2007 7:24:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
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To: b2bhandshake

Green card holders are legal immigrants, and should not be a target. There are plenty of illegals for you to worry about.


3 posted on 04/19/2007 7:26:32 AM PDT by expatpat
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To: b2bhandshake

check your premise...
how many oppose LEGAL immigration ?

it appears you really don’t like the restrictions that come with a green card.


4 posted on 04/19/2007 7:32:57 AM PDT by stylin19a (If you are living on the edge...MOVE OVER ! Some of us are ready to jump !)
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To: cripplecreek
Green card holders aren’t the problem.

They're certainly not the *biggest* problem but when some knuckledragger from Bangladesh or Nigeria (or any other third world cesspool) gets a "diversity" visa and then proceeds to bring half of his village over here it's a problem.

5 posted on 04/19/2007 7:34:53 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("The meaning of peace is the absence of opposition to socialism."-Karl Marx)
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To: b2bhandshake
Nope. I have no problem with legal immigrants.

Now, a campaign that permanently deported illegal immigrants I cheerfully write a check to support.

6 posted on 04/19/2007 7:42:48 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: b2bhandshake
I don't know of any Americans who are "against immigration". I know quite a few, most people I know actually, who are against ILLEGAL ALIENS. Believe it or not there is a big difference. If an immigrant wants to give up their green card, that is their decision to make, not mine. That said, I will repeat: Most Americans are against ILLEGALS not against immigration as you imply in your comment.

I think you are a DU troll who is trying to get FReepers to rant about "immigrants". Don't think you will have much luck.

7 posted on 04/19/2007 7:43:08 AM PDT by calex59
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To: b2bhandshake
The question to you? Would you be willing to support my campaign? OR would you be willing to contribute to have one immigrant less in America?

I have absolutely nothing against legal immigrants. I happen to be one myself.

What I cannot stand are people with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement and victimhood, no matter what their immigrantion status may be, and you seem to fall squarely into that category.

You were given a Green Card by this country. That was not a right but a privilege that was extended to you.

Now you are whining and expecting that the rest of your family be extended the same privilege without you having to wait to become a naturalized U.S. citizen.

You knew the immigration rules before you left your country of birth. Wrapping yourself in the "Americans hate legal immigrants" innuendos and expecting a guilt trip from American citizens in order to allow you to break the rules you agreed to might get you some sympathy from some Americans but you won't get any sympathy from me.

8 posted on 04/19/2007 7:58:44 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: b2bhandshake

My wife is a legal immigrant. She followed the rules.

You can too!


9 posted on 04/19/2007 8:03:15 AM PDT by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: b2bhandshake

I wouldn’t have relenquished my Green Card, but you have no idea how stressful legal immigration can be when you follow the rules. My family went through hell to get ours and there were times when we almost gave up and considered leaving. Had my skin color been brown and I entered through the southern border under the cover of darkness - I would have been welcomed with open arms.

On any given day there are probably more deaths in the US resulting from illegal immigrants than the 32 deaths at VT by a warped sick individual who happened to be a Green Card holder.

I didn’t look at all the profiles of those killed by this MF, but I do know one of the Professor’s was from Canada and one from Israel & India. Do you suggest we ship people like them back home too?


10 posted on 04/19/2007 8:03:29 AM PDT by aCDNinUSA
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To: aCDNinUSA
>>I wouldn’t have relenquished my Green Card, but you have no idea how stressful legal immigration can be when you follow the rules. My family went through hell to get ours and there were times when we almost gave up and considered leaving.<<<

Which is yet another reason why Romney is a better candidate than any I've seen out there. I have seen very few new ideas from other candidates, and time and time again he's pushing in a direction our country needs to go. Very few people around here even mention these issues, but they're going to become more pressing with the emergence of the Asian economy.

"The current system puts up a concrete wall to the best and brightest, yet those without skill or education are able to walk across the border. We must reform the current immigration laws so we can secure our borders...and increase legal immigration into America."

"There's only one condition on getting your Ph.D. here in the U.S. and that is: You leave as soon as you get it," he told New Hampshire Republicans gathered for their annual convention. "Let me tell you, you get a Ph.D. here in one of our great institutions, I want you to stay. . . . It makes no sense that we put up a big concrete wall against those who have education and skills but our doors have been wide open to people that have neither."


11 posted on 04/19/2007 8:15:49 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: calex59; b2bhandshake

My first thought, too. A DUer who mistakenly thinks FReepers are against all immigration. Nope, just the illegal kind.


12 posted on 04/19/2007 8:16:19 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: b2bhandshake

I wish someone had pulled that South Korean killers greencard!


13 posted on 04/19/2007 8:26:19 AM PDT by B4Ranch ("Steer clear of entangling alliances with any portion of the foreign world." -George Washington-)
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To: b2bhandshake

Damn, you’re stupid.


14 posted on 04/19/2007 8:28:44 AM PDT by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Capitalism is the economic expression of individual liberty. Pass it on.)
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To: CheyennePress
"There's only one condition on getting your Ph.D. here in the U.S. and that is: You leave as soon as you get it," he told New Hampshire Republicans gathered for their annual convention. "Let me tell you, you get a Ph.D. here in one of our great institutions, I want you to stay. . . . It makes no sense that we put up a big concrete wall against those who have education and skills but our doors have been wide open to people that have neither."

Worth repeating.
15 posted on 04/19/2007 8:31:31 AM PDT by ndt
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To: b2bhandshake
"...to request the U.S government to allow spouses and minor children of legal permanent residents (Green Card Holders) to come to the US while awaiting their immigration petition (I-130)"

Actually that is the situation for citizens of the United States too. Citizens who are married to a foreign national (that is not already in the U.S.) have to either wait for the I-130 to process or try the (not always faster) I-129F.

The only real difference is time. For a citizen filing a I-130 it is currently about 6-8 months, for a permanent resident it is more on the order of 2 years.

What I would support is a shortening of that time.
16 posted on 04/19/2007 8:40:10 AM PDT by ndt
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To: b2bhandshake
This is a bad time to ask for restrictions on immigration to be relaxed.

The VA shooter was a green card holder.

Chill. Wait for the anger to subside.

17 posted on 04/19/2007 8:42:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (JOIN THE NRA: https://membership.nrahq.org/forms/signup.asp)
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To: b2bhandshake; darkwing104

Sniff? Interesting posting history.


18 posted on 04/19/2007 8:43:13 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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To: b2bhandshake

“I have blogged on this and other forums in the past about lobbying to request the U.S government to allow spouses and minor children of legal permanent residents (Green Card Holders) to come to the US while awaiting their immigration petition (I-130).”

The legal reality of what he is asking could be stated in its correct legal terms as: “Let the spouse and children of a legal resident become legal residents while they wait for the processing of their application to become legal residents.”

On the other side, our immigration bureaucracy is a totally dysfunctional nightmare. I have a friend who has been going through the process of getting their “green card” and on the path to citizenship, and in the process I have never known or seen so much constant government incompetence, at every step.

Which, ought to speak volumes about the TOTAL unworkability of many of the Senate sponsored “reforms”, which will only increase, many times over, the legal and regulatory complexity of the immigration laws (how many different ways things become “qualified” and “unqualified”) and the management and operational requirements to fulfill them, in an agency that already cannot process a single application for anything without multi-year delays attributable not to the information requirements or to obtaining the required information, but to the total dysfunction of the agency.


19 posted on 04/19/2007 8:46:11 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Old Sarge

Here be one, I think. Two posts in one year. Could be kittychow time again!


20 posted on 04/19/2007 8:47:23 AM PDT by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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