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1 posted on 04/26/2007 10:29:32 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Patterson explained CO2 is not a pollutant, but an essential plant food.

Repeat loud and often.................


2 posted on 04/26/2007 10:33:27 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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Just 2 more scientists that won’t be heard....

Global Warming....pfffft


3 posted on 04/26/2007 10:33:37 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.)
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He had better be careful. The Global Warming Inquisition will find him.
4 posted on 04/26/2007 10:33:57 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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"In the meantime, I'm worried we're going to spend millions that could have been spent on something better like air pollution."

He's way off the mark.

We're going to waste billions (trillions worldwide).
5 posted on 04/26/2007 10:36:22 AM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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“The temperatures match very closely with the solar cycles.”

I’ve not heard a single “we’re causing it” nut comment on the relationship of the sun to warming.

6 posted on 04/26/2007 10:37:35 AM PDT by ryan71 (You can hear it on the coconut telegraph...)
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“We solved the ozone and acid rain problem. With effort, and a new way of doing things we could solve this one too,” said Phillips.”

Really? What did I miss? When and How did WE do THAT?

I seem to remember they just quietly slipped off into the night. Right after it was found that they were bogus!

What a blast.


7 posted on 04/26/2007 10:41:11 AM PDT by Al Gator (Refusing to "stoop to your enemy's level", gets you cut off at the knees.)
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Dr. R. Timothy Patterson
Professor of Geology
Department of Earth Sciences
College of Natural Sciences
Carleton University
Ottawa, Ontario
K1S 5B6
CANADA

Email: tpatters@ccs.carleton.ca
tel: 613-520-2600 ext. 4425
fax: 613-520-2569

R. Timothy Patterson, Ph.D., is a professor of geology, Department of Earth Sciences, Carleton University as well as Director of the Ottawa Geoscience Centre in Ottawa, Ontario, Canada. He is also a Senior Visiting Fellow in the School of Geography, Queen's University of Belfast, Northern Ireland. He holds a B.Sc. in Biology, B.A. in Geology, both from Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia and a Ph.D. in geology from the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA).

8 posted on 04/26/2007 10:48:39 AM PDT by Maelstorm
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The issue is NOT global warming but whether it is man-made.

The isue is the unexplained last 60 years 'hockey stick' on the CO2 graph. Has the sun's output increased that much in the past 60 years ? If so then global warming is NOT man made.


BUMP

9 posted on 04/26/2007 10:49:13 AM PDT by capitalist229 (Get Democrats out of our pockets and Republicans out of our bedrooms.)
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“I’m a man that’s difficult to convince,” he said. “What convinces me is the large body of evidence, and highly reputable people promoting global warming, who are not lobbyists, but only seeking truth in science. They say the the earth is warming up faster and greater now than in the past.”

Mars is warming up. Titan is warming up. All of the other planets where we can take measurements are warming up. And Earth is warming up. So yes, there is global warming, and that’s the truth. And yes, it’s warming up faster and greater now than in the recent recorded past.

The Sun is hotting up (I will leave the “fire next time” prophesies to those who dig that sort of thing). When the Sun hots up, the Solar System hots up. (Go figure!)

Now, it could be that Titan and Mars and Mecury and Venus are warming up because the Sun is increasing its radiant output, but the Earth is warming up because of cow farts and SUV emissions. It could be. But it isn’t.


10 posted on 04/26/2007 10:54:08 AM PDT by Vicomte13 (Le chien aboie; la caravane passe.)
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"All the money wasted on Kyoto in a year could provide clean drinking water for Africa," said Patterson

I like that man's thinking processes..........

11 posted on 04/26/2007 10:54:53 AM PDT by Red Badger (My gerund got caught in my diphthong, and now I have a dangling participle...............)
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Did any of these brave scientists - either as individuals or as a group - offer free classes to gore and his ilk?

Might help....at least then, gore would have no excuse!

18 posted on 04/26/2007 11:04:07 AM PDT by Logic n' Reason (Don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin')
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Thus far Global Warming is based on the heresy of people such as AlGore and of course others referencing some allegedly certifiable “Science” (None provided), and or “Scientists’” stating that Global Warming exists, and of course the Main Stream Alarmist, “Town Criers” hammer away at our sensibilities daily with the news.

Within this article is a grand example of the idiocy of the Global Warming alarmist. Note the commentary of Mr. Phillips. GW advocaters are good and have no motives other than the purist of..., yet GW skeptics motives are questionable as they have allegiance to something to make them think the way they do.


20 posted on 04/26/2007 11:06:54 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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But ... but ... but ...

Supreme Court Declares Carbon Dioxide a Pollutant

sigh

25 posted on 04/26/2007 11:11:25 AM PDT by Database
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We solved the ozone and acid rain problem.

And after the warming ends they'll say they fixed Global Warming, too.

26 posted on 04/26/2007 11:15:39 AM PDT by Cruising Speed
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"I think the proof in the pudding, based on what (media and governments) are saying, (is) we're about three quarters of the way (to disaster) with the doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere," said Patterson. "The world should be heating up like crazy by now, and it's not. The temperatures match very closely with the solar cycles."

This statement is demonstrably false and any "scientist" should know this. Atmospheric CO2 has not doubled or anything close to it. Manmade contributions may have doubled in the last 150 years but they only make up a very small percentage of total CO2.

Those charts come from this linked page. What I can't cut and paste is an HTML chart showing the pre-industrial levels of CO2 at 288,000 ppb and current CO2 levels at 368,400 ppb. Those are total concentrations and obviously not double. Natural additions during that period were 68,250 ppb and anthropogenic additions were 11,880 ppb.

Strange that Patterson argues against CO2 as a cause of Global Warming yet makes such a tremendously false statement about its increase.

30 posted on 04/26/2007 11:20:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (For Democrats; victory in Iraq is not an option.)
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“”We solved the ozone and acid rain problem. With effort, and a new way of doing things we could solve this one too,” said Phillips.”

We didn’t solve either one; they are as they were 25 years ago except for being relegated to page 10.

Acid rain was never a problem and smokestacks have been scrubbing away only to find acid-lakes mostly unchanged as the acid comes from the decaying plant matter.

The ozone hole fluctuates from year to year and hasn’t shrunk up and slunk away yet.

We have spent tons of money and no great harm has resulted so I guess we can get over this carbon-neutral period of racing the industrial engine with nowhere to go once again.


32 posted on 04/26/2007 11:22:22 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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It seems that our distant ancestors survived quite well when the global climate warmed from glacial levels to current temperatures.


36 posted on 04/26/2007 11:26:06 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir we bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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1000 years ago the Danes set up a colony in Greenland, planted crops and raised cattle. This lasted for 300 years at which point they were driven out by starvation brought on by global cooling.

The Earth was warmer 1000 years ago and who is to be blamed for that! Perhaps SUV's?

Or more likely the sun!

38 posted on 04/26/2007 11:27:03 AM PDT by Voltage
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39 posted on 04/26/2007 11:30:29 AM PDT by weldgophardline (GOD BLESS OUR TROOPS and President BUSH)
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“The world should be heating up like crazy by now, and it’s not. The temperatures match very closely with the solar cycles.”


41 posted on 04/26/2007 11:35:02 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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