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The Antiwar Right Brings the Republicans Home (Ron Paul)
The Sunday Times (London) ^ | May 20, 2007 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 05/20/2007 6:19:09 PM PDT by Captain Kirk

he idea that the party of Eisen-hower or Goldwater would have suspended habeas corpus indefinitely, as Bush has done for “enemy combatants”, would be unthinkable. The idea that they would have tried to occupy and rebuild an entire country in the Middle East is unimaginable. They were ferociously anticommunist, but also wary of direct engagement in foreign countries and deeply suspicious of all wars.

This kind of prudence and caution was once the hallmark of the middle of the country and its Midwestern American values. Paul reminded Americans of this past. He told them that the Republicans opposed the second world war, ended the Korean war and ended the Vietnam war. Why not the Iraq war? Why not indeed.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andrewsullivan; antiwarright; lewrockwell; nutjob; paleocons; paulbearers; paulistas; ronisright; ronpaul; ronpaulcult
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1 posted on 05/20/2007 6:19:11 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

Brings Republicans home? ROFL. More projection from the rabid left in the UK.


2 posted on 05/20/2007 6:20:49 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

ping


3 posted on 05/20/2007 6:22:27 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk

Bring the Republicans to the Libertarian views?


4 posted on 05/20/2007 6:22:35 PM PDT by Rick_Michael (Fred Thompson)
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To: Captain Kirk
Sorry to have to break the news to Ron Paul and the others, but the world has changed a little from the 1950s. Jumbo jets crashing into American skyscrapers had something to do with it.
5 posted on 05/20/2007 6:25:49 PM PDT by razzle
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To: Captain Kirk

Isn’t “Anti-war Right” an oximoron?

Live long and prosper.


6 posted on 05/20/2007 6:26:12 PM PDT by alienken (Need prayer? Join my group. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/churchofchristprayer/)
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To: theBuckwheat
I recall how Eisenhower got us deeply involved in Iran. Of course that was after WWII when he was Supreme Allied Commander and he mounted a joint effort with Joe Stalin's field commanders to OCCUPY IRAN!

Did someone forget that?

7 posted on 05/20/2007 6:26:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Well....Ike wasn’t consistent but then he wasn’t dumb enough to get us ensnared in a land war to “build democracy” in the Middle East, was he?


8 posted on 05/20/2007 6:28:12 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: muawiyah

How about Operation Keelhaul?


9 posted on 05/20/2007 6:29:02 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Captain Kirk
Funny how the Euroweinees hated America’s isolationist right when in was their ass on the line multiple times in the 20th century
10 posted on 05/20/2007 6:29:11 PM PDT by tophat9000 (Al-Qaidacrats =A new political party combining the anti American left and the anti Semite right)
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To: Captain Kirk
Bring the Republicans home? Only one man for that job!

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

11 posted on 05/20/2007 6:29:44 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: Captain Kirk

Sounds like Andrew’s gone heels-over-head for Ron.


12 posted on 05/20/2007 6:30:02 PM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Eisenhower certainly decided we would continue to support Israel and make sure they could defend themselves.

The Arabs have made sure that decision resulted in almost constant war since that time.

13 posted on 05/20/2007 6:30:57 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Captain Kirk

Looks like Ron “Whites of Their Eyes” Paul wants to take us back to the pre-Monroe Doctrine days when we fought all of our wars on our soil.


14 posted on 05/20/2007 6:33:11 PM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: muawiyah

“I recall how Eisenhower got us deeply involved in Iran.”

Going into the 1950’s, the GOP was thought to be the “isolationist” party. They intentionally picked Ike to break out of that image, in an effort to convince voters that the GOP could better handle the Cold War and Korea.

If modern history would repeat itself, the Dems would be picking a candidate that would be thought to handle Iraq and the WOT better than Dubya. In that scenario, the Dems would certainly have the upper hand for the next election. For whatever reasons, they’ve chosen to portray themselves as the party that refuses to handle the situation, or will simply run away in defeat.


15 posted on 05/20/2007 6:33:23 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Abcdefg
Have an older friend who was in a POW camp being starved by the Brits only to end up repatriated to what had become the Soviet Zone of Occupation in Germany before he could "fall into American hands".

He says the starvation stuff was strictly British as was most of the repatriation to Eastern Europe and East Germany.

Over the course of the next few years he escaped several times to the West only to be caught by West German local authorities (as that country began to put itself together) and get sent back East ~ probably to keep him from costing them money to send him to college.

Eventually he got accepted in the West, emigrated from Germany to the US and got a doctorate in Tokyo.

This is, undoubtedly the life he would have spent whether Germany lost the war or won the war.

16 posted on 05/20/2007 6:34:30 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: vbmoneyspender

We’ll have to fight this fight at some point and simply passing it off on the next generation is simply cowardly and irresponsible.

Churchill warned that this fight was coming but the world had had enough in his day.


17 posted on 05/20/2007 6:35:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Greed is NOT a conservative ideal.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Eisen-hower?

Don't remember him. I do remember an Eisenhower who called out the army to enforce supreme court edicts against American citizens. Maybe that's not the same as investigating subversive foreign terrorist organizations. Of course I wouldn't expect Ron Paul to know the difference.

18 posted on 05/20/2007 6:37:36 PM PDT by FreePaul
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To: razzle
"Sorry to have to break the news to Ron Paul and the others, but the world has changed a little from the 1950s. Jumbo jets crashing into American skyscrapers had something to do with it."

Don't shoot me, I'm just the messenger. I don't necessarily agree with or endorse...yada...yada.

But here's a 2003 article suggesting Wolfowitz agrees with Paul (or vice versa) about the grievances of al queda. And remember those hijackers were saudis. Here Wolfie says the idea was to get our forces out of saudi arabia by ousting saddam. The plan seems to be working so well... :-/ If the article is true, and we had just left saudi arabia well before 9/11/2001, isn't it possible that the WTC would still be standing, and we wouldn't even be having this conversation? Or do you think they would have carried out 911 regardless?

WMDs only 'bureaucratic reason' for war: Wolfowitz

19 posted on 05/20/2007 6:38:32 PM PDT by Jason_b
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To: Captain Kirk
he idea that the party of Eisen-hower or Goldwater would have suspended habeas corpus indefinitely.

Didn't President Lincoln, practically the father of the GOP, suspend habaes corpus for a time during the Civil War?

20 posted on 05/20/2007 6:39:33 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
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