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To: sageb1

I think it's too late for Europe and the United States is not far behind!

5 posted on 07/26/2007 10:07:27 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and you will find things only evil and inhuman")
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To: jan in Colorado

That’s the first time I’ve seen that one. Pretty nasty...and so true.


12 posted on 07/26/2007 10:13:59 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: jan in Colorado

Short of all out Religious wars, you are likely correct regarding Europe. The framework (Political Correctness, Multi-Cultural progression, etc.) is in place to take the United States. Will it happen here? One would quickly want to say, “no, of course not”, but my question is simple. Who’s actually going to stop it?


19 posted on 07/26/2007 10:30:06 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: jan in Colorado
Do you mean the U.S. is not far ahead. I think we're quite a bit ahead as far as Muslim population percentage goes. But still pretty complacent towards the danger we face.
22 posted on 07/26/2007 10:34:08 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: jan in Colorado

The trend and associated risk in Europe was clear 20 years ago.
It’s too late for them now.

We have time in the U.S., however, it is necessary to quit kissing Muslim butts, especially if they’re not willing to actively condem terrorist acts.


28 posted on 07/26/2007 10:49:41 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: jan in Colorado; sageb1; The_Reader_David; Right Wing Assault; SJackson; Fred Nerks; ...
I believe you are correct, Europe is already a lost cause.

American is very close behind and FYI, the target date set by Islamic fundamentalists here in South and SE Asia is that by the year 2020, the Islamization of the United States will be completed.

I first became aware of this about 7 years ago when I was told of the initiative being led by Saudi Arabia by a group here in SE Asia who were responsible for implementing the ideology in this region - I think I first posted about this back in 2002 and at that time I received a fair amount of ridicule here at FR to say the least.

Maybe you remember that Jan - I posted a very long post detailing the strategy of how the implementation would advance - schools being required to use the Quran - special rights for Muslims - halal foods - the official recognition of prayer times and fasting month ~ in fact most of what I mentioned back then has already started to come to fruition.

I wish there was a way that I could have better access to all of my posts here at FR - I think I have now coming close to 10,000 - It would really like to see my posts here from back in 2001 and 2002.

From my perspective over here, observing what is happening back in the States - I've actually been quite surprised at the progress I've seen with their plans. Things are moving along quite smoothly with little or no real opposition.

From what I see, Americans for the most part see Islam as merely a religion - they fail to see the political ideology that the religion encompasses.

Western-style liberal Democracy combined with the radical ideology of 'diversity and multiculturalism' has proven to be extremely fertile soil for political Islam to take root. Political correctness and tolerance are like Miracle-Gro fertilizer.

So there you have it, and it looks impossible to stop it at this point without radical changes that America is unable to take which would be the official recognition of Islam at a political ideology - which we know won't happen.

The end result is going to be violence and lots of it - and when it gets to that point the government will be compelled to change. Watch it. I think it will take place well before 2020 myself - perhaps as early as 2012-2015.

The next two or three years will be the deciding factor in the United States - but at this point it looks like America is destined to fall under the crescent and scimitar.

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

33 posted on 07/26/2007 11:09:33 PM PDT by expatguy (Support - "An American Expat in Southeast Asia")
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