Court says it's unjust but deports man who lived with underage girl

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 8/17/7 | Bob Egelko

[SmithL]

Thomas, Sidney Runyan

Born 1953 in Bozeman, MT

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Nominated by William J. Clinton on July 19, 1995, to a seat vacated by Dorothy Wright Nelson; Confirmed by the Senate on January 2, 1996, and received commission on January 4, 1996.

Education:
Montana State University, B.A., 1975

University of Montana School of Law, J.D., 1978

Professional Career:
Legal intern, Hon. W.W. Lessley, Montana State District Court, 18th Judicial District
Private practice, Billings, Montana, 1978-1995
Adjunct instructor of law, Rocky Mountain College, Billings, Montana, 1982-1995

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male

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Leighton, Ronald B.

Born 1951 in Stockton, CA

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U. S. District Court, Western District of Washington
Nominated by George W. Bush on January 23, 2002, to a seat vacated by Robert J. Bryan; Confirmed by the Senate on November 14, 2002, and received commission on November 26, 2002.

Education:
Whitworth College, B.A., 1973

University of California, Hastings College of Law, J.D., 1976

Professional Career:
Private practice, Tacoma, Washington, 1976-2002

Race or Ethnicity: White

Gender: Male

[Seruzawa]

By all means. Meet with the full court so they can find an emanation from a penumbra or simply write new law like they usually do.

[org.whodat]

Now that we have the spin of the bay paper, does anyone have the real facts of the case. My opinion is load him up and ship him out, the kid and mother can go with him.

[UCFRoadWarrior]

Why do I think that, if this was an illegal alien, he would be allowed to stay?

[Roamin53]

Anytime the ninth circuit follows the law I am surprised!!!

[Dante3]

Good riddance.

[gridlock]

Not only yeah, but HELL YEAH!

He’s 20. She’s 15 (though his lawyer says she was 16).

Hasta luego, Amigo!

[Always Right]

Hmm, why can’t the court simply re-write the law like they usually do?

[txdoda]

interesting.....too bad this guy was a *legal resident (& so easily deport-able), as our gov’t usually *overlooks* many crimes of the illegals.

Why weren’t the girls parents charged for allowing a 15/16 year old girl to move in with her boyfriend ?? Also wondering how many welfare checks/gov’t freebies are involved in the saga.

[org.whodat]

Although Juan Estrada-Espinoza's relationship with his girlfriend was consensual

From court decision: "charging him with being removable as an alien convicted of an aggravated felony. DHS based this charge on state statutory rape convictions stemming from Estrada-Espinoza’s relationship with his younger girlfriend. In June 2001, Estrada-Espinoza met Sonia Arredondo. At the time of their meeting, Estrada-Espinoza was 20 years old and Arredondo was either 15 or 16 years old."

So it would appear that she also was an illegal and the conviction would never have taken place if someone did not file a complaint, so there goes the old consensual.

[NRA1995]

Hasta la vista, baby

[weegee]

So now “Romeo & Juliet” exceptions to the age of consent law are being broadened to extend to a 4 year difference (when the girl is 2 years under majority and the male 2 years over?)???

Slippery slope.

It was NOT a consenting relationship. She was unable under the law to GIVE consent.

[weegee]

Maybe he should’ve stolen the identity of someone who was 17. There’s little to no prosecution for identity theft.

[MrB]

find an emanation from a penumbra = HALLUCINATION

[cinives]

So now they’re 26 and 22 and still not married ?

[muawiyah]

There certainly was an undercurrent of desire to do that on the part of the majority.

Now whether that came from their own ambitions (or experience) regarding 15 year old girls, or their legal training, we may never know.

Still, it's remarkably cold of the judges to personally dismiss the welfare of the teenage girl so easily. She must have been of Mexican origin herself for that to have happened.

[stuartcr]

I agree. Why break up the family?

[B4Ranch]

No can do.

>Estrada, 26, who lived in Jackson (Amador County) with his girlfriend and their son...<-THE ANCHOR BABY.