Burning witches was sanctioned in medieval Europe...should we go back to the good old days?
“...impossible to prove either way...”
Oh. So I guess that settles it.
This at best proves the Dark Ages has Communists. We know that “utopian” communities flourished (and died) by the dozens in the New World, failed attempts to put a stupid, non-functioning philosophy that looked good on paper into action. And the obvious conclusion is that if this kind of relationship did anything good for society, it wouldn’t take a medeival scholar with an agenda to surprise us with it.
Sure, they tied them to the same stake when they burned them.
So the same contract for brothers to share an inheritance is maze-logically argued by this “genius” to be a gay union contract.
Revisionist History in full swing.
These sort of things were nothing more than the Medieval equivalent of an S corporation. It had nothing to do with legalizing any sort of homosexual relationship.... which still would have put you frying at the stake before a Cannon Court. It was all about a legal contract governing property ownership.
Mostly this sort of thing would have been used by actual brothers or other individuals that had a blood relationship.
Medieval Europe faced serious problems with population growth and division of inheritance.... and developed various mechanisms to deal with it. Primogeniture was one of these... shared ownership like the contracts being discussed were another.
Essentialy, a plot of land that could easly support 1 man and his family in one generation..... couldn’t be subdivided indefinately among the heirs of succeding generations and still produce enough to support all those heirs and THEIR families. Figuring out methods to keep parcels of land intact through succeding generations was a huge deal for a relatively closed agrarian society like Europe. This was also one of the major primary drivers for exploration and colonization/conquest of lands outside of Europe.
Our Founders pleaded each other their "lives, fortunes, and sacred honor" and they weren't poncing nancy boys. Sometimes a pledge is just a pledge.
You don’t think Professor Tulchin is just another disinterested member of the scholary profession in search of truth (well, not that there is such a thing)?
Don't be elated just because faggotry existed, the graves could be evidence society resisted...
Of course it can, anyone can interpret anything any way they want, for example some protestant churches have "interpreted" :
You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
To mean God condones homosexual relations between men.
I'd highly question this "evidence".
There is no proof these were sexual “gay unions”.
“It is impossible to prove either way and probably also somewhat irrelevant to understanding their way of thinking. They loved each other, and the community accepted that.”
No, it is completely relevant. I can’t find it now, but there is evidence of similar arrangements which had their own ceremony in Christian Syria around 400AD but it was more like a blood brother/sister type of arrangement.
>>Okee doke. Show of hands....how many think Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University in Pennsylvania is gay and a member of a brotherment?<<
First, I read that as brothermeat.
2nd, lets assume this story is completely accurate.
3rd, lets assume that because something was done in medevil times we should do it today.
Even in that case we are still only talking about two adults making a contractual arrangement for property. Any two adults should be able to do that now.
That is not at all the same as gay marriage equivalent to straight marriage.
A lot of things were ‘sanctioned’ in midieval Europe that the libs would freak out about now, so “Mr.” Tulchin should think about that for awhile.
Allan Tulchin????? ... the internationally recognized Nobel Prize-winning expert in forensic anthropology? The man who is to dusty bones what Carl Sagan was to the stars? The sage whose name was changed to "Indiana Jones" so Spielberg wouldn't get sued?
You mean THAT Allan Tulchin of Shippensburg University?????
This guy is lying, and others will call him on it. Some other guy tried to assert that the old Catholic Church did gay weddings in the dark ages, and was shot down pretty fast. I expect the same will happen to this asshat as well.
What? No equal civil rights for the ladies? No sisterhoods? Oh, the humanity!
Man what about Scotland of that same time period....maybe it was William and Wallace. Nights are cold in the Scottish Highlands.
“For example, he found legal contracts from late medieval France that referred to the term “affrèrement,” roughly translated as brotherment.”
So medieval France sanctioned gay incest?
Seriously, these types of living arrangements (aka partnerships) had nothing to do with sex and if you accused those men of being gay back then they would beaten you senseless.