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Don't Just Keep the Electoral College; Repeal the 17th Amendment
Future of Freedom Foundation ^ | December 2000 | Sheldon Richman

Posted on 10/25/2007 3:50:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

In the heat of the electoral controversy — the worst possible time to make constitutional decisions — many people, such as Senator-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton, are calling for an end to the Electoral College. Big mistake.

Someone once said, Don’t knock down a wall merely because you cannot immediately see what it’s good for. The same can be said for the Electoral College. We should keep in mind that the Founding Fathers were of somewhat better caliber than the politician you are likely to see on television, including those with presidential ambitions. The Electoral College was not an idea floating in isolation from the rest of the constitutional order bequeathed to us. It is an integral piece of a unified structure. The Founders seemed to have anticipated the architect Louis Sullivan’s motto, “Form follows function. ”

What was the function of the Constitution? To restrain the central government. The document is a device for dispersing power, because concentrated power is inimical to freedom. A related purpose was to thwart majorities that would trample individual freedom. There is an invisible line between democracy and mob rule. The main method the Founders hit on to contain central power and mob rule was federalism: the maintenance of the states as sovereign entities. Although the Constitution begins with the words, “We the People ” (to Patrick Henry’s consternation), in the late eighteenth century the union was seen as a confederation of states. “The United States ” once took a plural verb. The Bill of Rights concludes with the Tenth Amendment, which says in no uncertain terms that powers not delegated to the central government were “reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. ” That view prevailed until President Lincoln issued his bloody military dissent in 1861.

The Electoral College kept presidential elections consistent with the sovereignty of the states. Another part of the constitutional blueprint was the selection of the members of the U.S. Senate by the state legislatures. That was changed with the Seventeenth Amendment in 1913, under the delusion that anything labeled “democratic ” was good. It was a case of pulling down a wall without asking what function it served.

What could be objectionable about having direct election of senators? A lot — if you bear in mind that the Founders’ rationale was to prevent the flow of power to the center. If the state legislatures picked the senators, the states would have representatives in one house of Congress. Those senators would tend to be more protective of state (fragmented) power than direct representatives of “the people ” would be. History seems to bear this out. By the way, it is untrue that under the old system “the people ” had no say in who their senators would be. Candidates for state legislatures usually declared whom they favored for the U.S. Senate.

The powers reserved to the states became known as “states’ rights.” This is an unfortunate term, a metaphor actually. States don’t have rights. Only individuals do. The term simply refers to the powers that the states have against the central government. Thus states’ rights in principle are protections of individual rights.

To be sure, states have abused their powers and violated individual rights. They continue to do so to this day. (Try carrying a gun or becoming a barber without your state’s permission.) But the central government also violates rights and has done so with increasing ferocity over the decades. The preference for states’ rights is merely a recognition of a tradeoff: decentralized power rather than centralized power. If government becomes intolerably oppressive, it is easier to change states than to change countries. Voting with the feet should be kept as cheap as possible.

That the Framers were men of wealth and property is no valid objection to their handiwork. Private property is indispensable to freedom and prosperity — even, or especially, for those who own little. Envious mobs are too easily whipped up by opportunistic politicians to keep property safe in a democracy. That’s one reason the Framers devised the Electoral College: it was to be a buffer between unruly majorities and the rights of the smallest minority, the individual.

So let us not knock down another wall — the Electoral College. Instead, let’s restore an old wall by repealing the Seventeenth Amendment!

Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation in Fairfax, Va. (www.fff.org), and editor of Ideas on Liberty magazine.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 10thamendment; 17thamendment; 1913; centralgovernment; centralization; confederation; decentralization; democracy; electoralcollege; federalism; founders; foundingfathers; framers; freedom; hillaryclinton; liberty; majorityrule; mobrule; republicanism; shewhomustnotbenamed; states; statesrights; tyranny; unitedstates
An Oldie but a Goodie...
1 posted on 10/25/2007 3:50:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; AlwaysFree; ...

PING!


2 posted on 10/25/2007 3:51:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Without an electoral college; we won’t need a senate.


3 posted on 10/25/2007 3:59:32 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: x

Ping.


4 posted on 10/25/2007 4:01:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
>"We should keep in mind that the Founding Fathers were of somewhat better caliber than the politician you are likely to see on television"


5 posted on 10/25/2007 4:01:20 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Hey Jessie, how much melanin do you have to have to form a socially acceptable lynch mob?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“That was changed with the Seventeenth Amendment in 1913, under the delusion that anything labeled “democratic ” was good.”

I thought that it had to do with scandals of that day but certainly the abuses of power that exists today are several times worse than a few minor scandals.

6 posted on 10/25/2007 4:13:38 PM PDT by samm1148 (Pennsylvania-They haven't taxed air--yet)
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To: samm1148
I thought that it had to do with scandals of that day but certainly the abuses of power that exists today are several times worse than a few minor scandals.

Part of the 17th Amendment rational was that several states in that period with closely divided legislatures had failed to select a senator. If I remember correctly one state failed to send any senator at all for a time.

7 posted on 10/25/2007 4:39:10 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Pontiac
...one state failed to send any senator at all for a time.

Tough for the residents of that State, but an additional goad to the State's voters to get control of their Legislature.

8 posted on 10/25/2007 5:02:26 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Nine out of ten orcs attacking Rohan were Saruman's Uruk-hai, not Sauron's! So, why invade Mordor?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Can you imagine if a Presidential race ended as close as the Fla count was in 2000? But instead of one state doing recounts, it would be every precinct in the country? All a candidate would need is a few corrupt precincts in out-of-the-way places, and they could steal an election this way.


9 posted on 10/25/2007 5:22:36 PM PDT by narby
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I agree!


10 posted on 10/25/2007 5:27:53 PM PDT by JSDude1 (When a liberal represents the Presidential Nominee for the Republicans; THEY'RE TOAST)
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To: Repeal The 17th
Without an Electoral College, the Politicians will flock to the highly populated States and Cities and the little guy will end up at the end of the line.
11 posted on 10/25/2007 5:45:06 PM PDT by do the dhue (They've got us surrounded again. The poor bastards. General Creighton Abrams)
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To: narby
All a candidate would need is a few corrupt precincts in out-of-the-way places, and they could steal an election this way.

Kind of like the Nixon vs Kennedy race in Chicago (not that Chicago is out of the way).

12 posted on 10/25/2007 6:02:57 PM PDT by Pontiac (Your message here.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
an oldie but a goodie

A very "goodie". I think the 17th amendment was the biggest constitutional mistake we've made. If only one of the presidential candidates (Fred?) would come out against it.

Sigh, it won't happen. The country couldn't possibly understand why the Senate was originally set up to preserve the rights of the several states. Sigh.

13 posted on 10/25/2007 6:26:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker, that we can expect . . .)
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To: BfloGuy
If only one of the presidential candidates (Fred?) would come out against it.

I'm pretty sure Ron Paul is against it. Not that that is going to matter.

14 posted on 10/25/2007 7:06:57 PM PDT by antinomian (Show me a robber baron and I'll show you a pocket full of senators.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If you are in favor of getting rid of the 17th amendment, you have to explain how it improves things in the face of the state legislatures around the country passing anti-smoking laws that the majority of people are against, to name just one issue. I’m not saying direct election is all that great considering that I live in the People’s Republic of New York with our two marxists, and came from the People’s Republic of New Jersey which boasts a socialist and a cadaver for senators, but these state legislatures aren’t apt to be any better.


15 posted on 10/26/2007 9:06:32 AM PDT by Dahoser (America's great untapped alternative energy source: The Founding Fathers spinning in their graves.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“If the state legislatures picked the senators, the states would have representatives in one house of Congress. Those senators would tend to be more protective of state (fragmented) power than direct representatives of “the people ” would be.”

NOW, I understand.


16 posted on 10/26/2007 10:29:44 AM PDT by Sensei Ern (http://www.myspace.com/reconcomedy - Ann Coulter is My Press Secretary)
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To: BfloGuy
If only one of the presidential candidates (Fred?) would come out against it.

Seems the Frederalist would be an ideal candidate to push that.

17 posted on 10/27/2007 12:50:57 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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To: Dahoser
Well, if it weren't for Reynolds v. Sims, one house in each of those legislatures might actually be decent if it represented counties equally. Such might also prevent the socialist majority in each state from trampling all over your rights like they were a Twister mat.
18 posted on 10/27/2007 12:53:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Repeal the Terrible Two - the 16th and 17th Amendments. Sink LOST! Stop SPP!)
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