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URGENT: Iraq Veterans Against The War To Smear Military as Babykillers (Winter Soldier II)
Winter Soldier page at IVAW.org ^ | 2/15/07

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:06:55 PM PST by Doctor Raoul

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1 posted on 11/15/2007 7:06:56 PM PST by Doctor Raoul
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Ping. Need your contacts to know about this one. Who else to ping?


2 posted on 11/15/2007 7:07:39 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

trooprally, need your ping list on this.


3 posted on 11/15/2007 7:09:07 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: trooprally

trooprally, need your ping list on this.


4 posted on 11/15/2007 7:09:18 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother

Pass the word.


5 posted on 11/15/2007 7:10:58 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Doctor Raoul, can I post it on my blog?


6 posted on 11/15/2007 7:14:32 PM PST by cardinal4 (http://artoriuscastus.blogspot.com/)
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To: BillF; BufordP; Jimmy Valentine's brother; kristinn; Angelwood; trooprally; PleaDeal; ...

mega ping!!


7 posted on 11/15/2007 7:15:32 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: BillF; BufordP; jimmy; kristinn; Angelwood; trooprally; PleaDeal; Albion Wilde; 103198; 10Ring; ...

mega ping!!


8 posted on 11/15/2007 7:16:43 PM PST by trooprally (Never Give Up - Never Give In - Remember Our Troops)
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To: Doctor Raoul

More lies from the 1960s grave.


9 posted on 11/15/2007 7:19:18 PM PST by bmwcyle (BOMB, BOMB, BOMB,.......BOMB, BOMB IRAN)
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To: Doctor Raoul; StarCMC

Ping


10 posted on 11/15/2007 7:22:56 PM PST by Radix (If your outgo exceeds your income, your upkeep will be your downfall.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Well, today with the Internet and the blogs its a lot easier to expose these phonies. We need to be vigilant...


11 posted on 11/15/2007 7:23:01 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: trooprally

I heard that all of the leaders of this “Winter Soldier II” movement were murderers, drug addicts, rapists, pedophiles, and guilty of many other unsavory, illegal, and immoral acts.

It’s just a matter of getting maybe a million or two people to send written attestations to those facts, using whatever stories, names, addresses, and methods they find most suitable to the occasion.

It’ll take them 3 or 4 years to verify or reject all of those attestations.


12 posted on 11/15/2007 7:27:37 PM PST by angkor ("There! half man, half bear, and half pig! Do you see it?!." Al Gore, South Park 11.12)
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To: Doctor Raoul

“In March of 2008, Iraq Veterans Against the War will gather in our
nation’s capital to break the silence and hold our leaders
accountable for these wars. We hope you’ll join us, because yours
is a story that every American needs to hear.”

Oh, I’ll be there, but not on your side of the street!!

TRAITOR SCUM


13 posted on 11/15/2007 7:31:35 PM PST by PROCON
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Posted over here..

I dont think honest and reasonable Americans will buy into this crap as much this time. The Dems and the liberals have proven to be quite bufoonish. However, the seditious folks need to be called out..

14 posted on 11/15/2007 7:34:36 PM PST by cardinal4 (http://artoriuscastus.blogspot.com/)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Thank you for the post. I’ll pass it on.


15 posted on 11/15/2007 7:41:49 PM PST by LucyJo
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To: Doctor Raoul
John F’ng Kerry and his Winter Soldiers on the same page with Sid Blumenthal’s going public that he still works for Hillary. Way too much overload for my High Blood Pressure. Kerry’s and others testimony before the Senate convinced me never to trust any politician and doubly not Democrats.
16 posted on 11/15/2007 7:43:16 PM PST by JimSEA
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To: LucyJo
Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan Questionnaire
Iraq Veterans Against the War
P.O. Box 8296
Philadelphia, PA 19101
(215) 241-7123, ivaw@ivaw.org
Name:_________________________________ Address:__________________________________________
Phone:______________________ Email:________________________________ Date of Birth:____________
Occupation:______________________ Military Training:__________________________________________
Unit(s):_______________________________ MOS (including title):________________________________
Duty Period(s):__________________________Decorations:________________________________________
Numbers of Tours (if any): ____Iraq ____Afghanistan ____ Other; please specify______________
.AO:___________. DD214 (Check one): ____in IVAW records ____Attached ___Will Provide (No veterans or
military personnel will be able to testify without a DD214 or military ID.)
Do you have any documentation, including photos, videos, military orders, SOPs, memos or any relevant
documentation?____________________________________________________________
Are there people whom IVAW can contact to corroborate your accounts? If so, please list names and contact
information:______________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________________

POINTS TO COVER WHEN COLLECTING TESTIMONY
Individual soldiers should not be scapegoated for
policies designed at the highest levels of government.
Instead, the responsibility for war crimes should be
placed where it truly belongs—upon the politicians,
generals, corporations, think tanks, and universities
that devise and control military policy.

As much collecting of testimony as is possible
must be done in person, because many veterans are
still confused and guilty about what they did or saw
over there; only through personal contact can their
questions and fears be adequately resolved.

Emphasize that they are not alone in what they
witnessed and that we are all having a hard time
adjusting to this society after experiencing this
insanity. Only through openly talking about it are we
ever going to be able to readjust ourselves and find
solutions.

Some veterans might ask why we are not
investigating insurgent atrocities. First, we only know
the ins and outs of our government’s policies. Second,
and most important, we recognize that small-scale
individual-type atrocities occur in all wars. This
investigation is designed to demonstrate that our
policies (stated and unstated) are, in fact, genocidal
(and illegal) in nature, i.e., the destruction of the Iraqi
and Afghan people, culture, and infrastructure.
Veterans should give as much detail as possible
concerning dates, places, and units involved.
However, we are not interested in naming individual
soldiers, since that looks like we are trying to
scapegoat them.

Remember: this is not going to be a trial but simply
a presentation of war crimes testimony, for the
purpose of awakening the world as to where the
responsibilities for war crimes lay.

Use the questions to get a general idea, and then
use a blank sheet or the back of the questionnaire for
a more detailed explanation of the testimony. Ask the
veteran to sign it when you’re done.

Always ask if there is anything else that the
veteran might like to talk about that had been left out.
If there are any questions that you can’t answer,
say so and contact the national office; we will try to get
the answer.

Always ask veterans if they have any photos,
videos, or any other materials that might be useful in
presenting their testimony.

Try to get the names, addresses, phone numbers,
and email addresses of corroborating witnesses when
possible. Try to get the veteran to call his/her buddies
to see if they are interested in participating in the
investigation.

If you should come across any questions that you
feel are missing on the questionnaire, please add
them to your list and notify us.

Watch out for the line “I don’t have anything, just
S.O.P stuff”—only to find out that this means small
kills teams, baiting civilians into a sniper trap—de
facto unit policy.

We’ll have info on housing, food, and
transportation as each of those is secured.

17 posted on 11/15/2007 7:56:54 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: LucyJo
Winter Soldier: Iraq & Afghanistan Questionnaire
Iraq Veterans Against the War
P.O. Box 8296
Philadelphia, PA 19101
(215) 241-7123, ivaw@ivaw.org
Would you like to present this information anonymously? Yes/No?
Name:_________________________________ Address:__________________________________________
Phone:______________________ Email:________________________________ Date of Birth:____________
Occupation:______________________ Military Training:__________________________________________
Unit(s):_______________________________ MOS (including title):________________________________
Duty Period(s):__________________________Decorations:________________________________________
Numbers of Tours (if any): ____Iraq ____Afghanistan ____ Other; please specify______________
.AO:___________. DD214 (Check one): ____in IVAW records ____Attached ___Will Provide (No veterans or
military personnel will be able to testify without a DD214 or military ID).
Do you have any documentation, to include photos, videos, military orders , SOPs, memos or any relevant
documentation?____________________________________________________________
Are there people whom IVAW can contact to corroborate your accounts? If so please list names and contact
information:______________________________________________________________________________
________________________________________________________________________________________
Please include information that indicates the dates and locations presented in this material as well as the units
and commanders involved if they are O-4/E-8 or above.
If you are sending a large amount of material please provide instructions on what you feel is most important
Is there anything else you would like us to know or that you think is important?
Do you have friends that can provide similar evidence? If so, please help us get in contact with them.
Is any evidence provided classified?

18 posted on 11/15/2007 7:58:02 PM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Maybe this time these scumbags can round up a “baby killer” who actually made it out of BCT.


19 posted on 11/15/2007 7:59:15 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Wanna see how bad it can get? Elect Hillary and find out.)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Quite a bit of information debunking the claims of the original "Winter Soldiers" can be found at WinterSoldier.com.
20 posted on 11/15/2007 7:59:59 PM PST by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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