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URGENT: Iraq Veterans Against The War To Smear Military as Babykillers (Winter Soldier II)
Winter Soldier page at IVAW.org ^ | 2/15/07

Posted on 11/15/2007 7:06:55 PM PST by Doctor Raoul

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To: STARWISE
I expect a lot of "Beauchamps" and "MacBeths" to be in the crowd.

Winter Phony Soldier II.

61 posted on 11/16/2007 5:56:53 AM PST by silent_jonny ("be wise in what is good, and simple concerning evil" -- Romans 16:19)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Exposing the IVAW winter soldiers has been one of my quests... here’s some of the stuff I’ve dug up on them. Feel free to use it any way you see fit.

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/11/new-improved-winter-soldiers.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/11/ivaw-members-at-fort-drum-got-some.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/11/clifton-hicks-saga-continues.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/11/how-one-ivaw-member-really-feels-about.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/08/betrayal-ivaw-and-haditha-marines-part.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/04/ivaw-and-gi-special-two-peas-in-pod.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/04/claiming-soldier-died-for-lie-ivaw.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2007/03/knee-injury-depleted-uranium-victim-and.html

http://chickenhawkexpress.blogspot.com/2006/07/meet-cindys-new-boy-toy-geoffrey.html


62 posted on 11/16/2007 6:02:20 AM PST by Chickenhawk Warmonger (The Media Lied & Soldiers Died)
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To: Doctor Raoul
History Link!

WinterSoldier.com
63 posted on 11/16/2007 6:19:16 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one subscription cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: PROCON
“In March of 2008, Iraq Veterans Against the War will gather in our nation’s capital to break the silence and hold our leaders accountable for these wars. We hope you’ll join us, because yours is a story that every American needs to hear.” Oh, I’ll be there, but not on your side of the street!! TRAITOR SCUM

...AND I'LL BE THERE STANDING BY YOUR SIDE, DOC!

WatchingHillary.com


64 posted on 11/16/2007 6:21:57 AM PST by GaryLee1990 (www.WatchingHillary.com)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
Last time Jane Fonda paid for the hearings. Who is providing the deep pockerts for this one?

Could very well be Jane Fonda again. When she came out of retirement to lead the anti-war march in January, she and Bill Perry of the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (now hiding his dirt as a "Veteran For Peace") reminisced about the good old days of "Winter Soldier".

He's the puke that put a large 5-6 inch VVAW pin on her coat collar. Note that NOBODY in the Drive By Media reported that insult to the veterans to whom she apologized.

Once a Traitor Bitch, always a Traitor Bitch.

65 posted on 11/16/2007 6:36:51 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: maica

Elvis Kokesh’s ruck is filled with his press clipings.


66 posted on 11/16/2007 6:38:12 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: silent_jonny
I expect a lot of "Beauchamps" and "MacBeths" to be in the crowd.

Don't let the IVAW tell you that Jesse MacBeth wasn't IVAW. Their staffer Braxton was able to provide his DD-214 to investigative reporters. So how'd they have that on file to begin with? Plus he's in photos marching holding the IVAW banner. Why did he get the front row publicity from IVAW?

Because he was spewing the "war criminal" line the IVAW is selling.

The VVAW bastards are the midwives for the IVAW. Old long time VVAW pukes like David Cline and Bill Perry took cover at the Veterans For Peace. The IVAW founders were VFP pukes and hung with the VVAW pukes. The formation of the IVAW was announced at the VFP convention.

67 posted on 11/16/2007 6:43:46 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Bookmark


68 posted on 11/16/2007 6:54:40 AM PST by DocRock (All they that TAKE the sword shall perish with the sword. Matthew 26:52 Gun grabbers beware.)
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To: trooprally; All
btw, do we have any idea of how many ACTUAL US veterans belong to this organization???

in the "salad days" of the VVAW, they had LESS than 2% of the membership who had ACTUALLY served in the military. the rest were poseurs, liars, leftists, fools,etc.

free dixie,sw

69 posted on 11/16/2007 7:38:07 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Recommended reading.
70 posted on 11/16/2007 7:43:44 AM PST by Doctor Raoul (Columbia = Ayatollah U.)
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To: StarCMC

Thanks Star.......and a bump


71 posted on 11/16/2007 7:47:28 AM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: Doctor Raoul; All
THANKS, "Dr."

in 1971, when i returned from OCONUS, i was approached by a "VVAW veteran", who insisted that i talk to him, as a "fellow veteran of the First Cav".

he went "slinking away" - (fyi, he SAID that he had "forgotten stuff like that")- when i pointed out that he couldn't give me his MOS & what his "job title" was/meant = for example an 11B20 is a "straight-leg infantryman", who was either a CPL or a SPEC4.

every REAL soldier KNOWS his MOS & NEVER forgets it - not in one year or 100 years!! - for example i was FIRST a 1560 (1560 is ONE of about 10 MOS's that i have qualified for over the 28+ years of total service in USA/ARNGUS/USAR. when i "hung up my badge & gun i was a 31D35.)

free dixie,sw

72 posted on 11/16/2007 7:57:52 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Doctor Raoul; All
btw, i've NEVER known a REAL combat veteran (at least a SOBER one - drunks telling "war stories" down at the VFW don't count!) who went around BRAGGING about his/her service & "bravery".

as an example, until his UNtimely death in the '90s, i was "best friends with" former 1LT Joseph O. March, late of Merrill's Maurauders of WWII CBI fame. the NEAREST i ever heard Joe come to bragging about his (HEROIC & HEAVILY decorated) exploits was he said "we went through the 18th Jap army like - - - - through a goose,. not many of those boys survived our "especial" care."

fyi, that's HOW i "just knew" that "Hanoi John" was a FRAUD, a COWARD or BOTH, long before he was "Swift-Boated" by the REAL heroes.

73 posted on 11/16/2007 8:07:40 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

You’re right about not forgretting your MOS. I don’t remember my serial number of my weapon’s serial number but I sure do remember my MOS.

You’re also right about war stories. My Uncle flew some interesting missions in WWII doesn’t talk about them. His entire crew that he went over with made it back; says it was pure luck.


74 posted on 11/16/2007 8:36:42 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Democrat, a synonym for Traitor)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother; All
fwiw, mine was 1,407,213 (sorry, but i DO remember my FIRST issued weapon's serial number, though i surely don't remember the SEVERAL others, including the first 1911A1, first Ithaca 12guage pumpgun,first M-14 & the first "mattel special" that i DESPISED!!!= "you can tell it's MATELL, it's SWELL!").

fwiw, i was even actually ISSUED a "ma duece" for "my very own" & wore a "headspace guage" on my dogtag chain for YEARS afterward. (i must tell you/admit that "old breed cav troopers" are NUTS!)

furthermore, i'd bet that i could "reel off" ALL of my MOS that i was awarded over the years, if i HAD to. (fwiw, i was a GI before, during & after the OLD system "went out" & the NEW MOS system "came in", so i had a BUNCH of different ones = the army kept changing the numbering system. soldiers of the 60s/70s/80s will KNOW what i mean.)

THANK YOU for YOUR service to this free republic.

free dixie,sw

75 posted on 11/16/2007 9:06:46 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Abortionists ARE the true baby-killers.


76 posted on 11/16/2007 9:15:02 AM PST by rbosque ("To educate a person in mind and not in morals is to educate a menace to society." - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: Doc91678

My brother served twice in Vietnam and came home a broken man, alcoholic, on drugs. I have nothing but respect and true love for the Vietnam War vets. Thank you so much for serving our country then.I just wish our country had served you better.


77 posted on 11/16/2007 9:17:56 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary; All
tell your brother that i am sorry for his loss but that "the war is over" & "WELCOME HOME, my brother".

lots of us came home in "bits & pieces" (hardly anyone "came home, whole".), therefore we "old soldiers" MUST assure that what was done to "our brothers" of the VN-era NEVER, EVER happens again to ANY veteran in the future.

free dixie,sw

78 posted on 11/16/2007 9:26:12 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: rbosque
i doubt that ANYONE here will argue with you about that.

free dixie,sw

79 posted on 11/16/2007 9:55:23 AM PST by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God. Thomas Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

He died a couple of years ago from the effects of years of alcoholism. I hope he found the peace he never had on earth. Thanks.


80 posted on 11/16/2007 1:03:24 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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