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Gene Study Supports Single Main Migration Across Bering Strait
Eureka Alert ^ | 11-26-2007 | Anne Rueter

Posted on 11/26/2007 4:13:41 PM PST by blam

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To: muawiyah
Or, rather than the movements of whole populations, the trail of girls traded from tribe to tribe over thousands of years.

Humans trade the girls.

Right, but not when a group is migrating into an unoccupied territory. Then there is nobody to trade with.

21 posted on 11/26/2007 5:47:53 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: blam
Bunch of Western Siberians also have sundadont teeth.

There are other features that go with the teeth ~ best known modern populations with this tooth type are the Japanese (40% have them), with the Samurai class within that population having a higher percentage ~ which is consistent with the theory that "tamed Emeshi" warriors evolved under Imperial rule to become a permanent warrior class.

Not sure what kind of teeth the Japanese royal family has, but they could have the same kind as Buddha's Sakha tribe had. Seems they were driven out of India only to relocate to North China/Southern Siberia where they mixed with the people known today as the Yakut. The Japanese royal family arises out of the group of Yakuts who ended up conquering Korea circa 500 AD, and then Japan about 560 AD.

The Sakha/Saka spoke Tocharian which is an Indo-European language with roots that seem close to ancient Celtic languages.

The biggest benefit to the Japanese royal family (actually, a whole class of families with claims to the original royal line) is that the women are buxom ~ you can find the same phenomenon among residual noble class families in Korea (most of whom seem to live in the United States anymore).

22 posted on 11/26/2007 5:50:00 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Coyoteman
"Over thousands of years" ~ even the furthest flung tribe has somebody to trade with back up the trail.

It happens. It distorts the information.

23 posted on 11/26/2007 5:51:06 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: blam

Could it be that the last waves of new peoples wiped out the previous peoples? Naw, we all know how peace loving at the “natives” are.......


24 posted on 11/26/2007 6:06:35 PM PST by machman
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To: timer
From living Eskimos to fossil evidence, there seems to have been 3 different waves, as to teeth types/patterns, that developed in the arctic populations.

My understanding is that the linguistic evidence also supports 3 waves. With the Inuit being the most recent. The first wave languages occupied all of South America, central America, and much of North America before European Languages replaced them.

25 posted on 11/26/2007 6:06:46 PM PST by Fraxinus (My opinion worth what you paid.)
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To: muawiyah
Christy Turner chose the name Sundadont for the name of these particular type of teeth from the area of its origins, Sundaland.


26 posted on 11/26/2007 6:14:11 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

I think a guy at the Discovery Institute proved this sometime in the last couple of years. This just confirms his work. Another nail in the coffin of Mormonism.


27 posted on 11/26/2007 6:17:38 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: muawiyah
"The Sakha/Saka spoke Tocharian which is an Indo-European language with roots that seem close to ancient Celtic languages."

On The Presence Of Non-Chinese At Anyang

Blondie

28 posted on 11/26/2007 6:19:00 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: muawiyah
THE SAMURAI AND THE AINU
29 posted on 11/26/2007 6:22:51 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Interesting. I have wondered about this a lot.


30 posted on 11/26/2007 6:27:26 PM PST by mysterio
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To: blam
Did a relatively small number of people from Siberia who trekked across a Bering Strait land bridge some 12,000 years ago give rise to the native peoples of North and South America?

It seems to me skeletal remains and evidence of early homo sapien life have been found in North America dating back at least 25 thousand years.

31 posted on 11/26/2007 6:33:31 PM PST by BluH2o
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To: blam
Did a relatively small number of people from Siberia who trekked across a Bering Strait land bridge some 12,000 years ago give rise to the native peoples of North and South America? Or did the ancestors of today’s native peoples come from other parts of Asia or Polynesia, arriving multiple times at several places on the two continents, by sea as well as by land, in successive migrations that began as early as 30,000 years ago?

I thought it was the Lamanites...

32 posted on 11/26/2007 6:37:25 PM PST by Jim Noble (Trails of trouble, roads of battle, paths of victory we shall walk.)
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To: SeaHawkFan
I think a guy at the Discovery Institute proved this sometime in the last couple of years. This just confirms his work.

I would like to see a citation for this "proof."

From what I have seen of the Discovery Institute's writings, they are loaded with lawyers and PR flacks, but very short on scientists. And the few scientists they do have are committed creationists first and actual scientists last.

33 posted on 11/26/2007 6:38:05 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: BluH2o
"It seems to me skeletal remains and evidence of early homo sapien life have been found in North America dating back at least 25 thousand years."

Arlington Springs Woman is the oldest human skeleton ever found in the Americas.

34 posted on 11/26/2007 6:45:17 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam
It's pretty obvious the Samurai and the Ainu have a common heritage which includes certain "racial markers". On the other hand, the Ainu continued to reside in Siberia and North China while the people who became the Samurai lived in what are now the Japanese islands. These are the people known in the Middle Ages as the Emeshi, and they have a culture quite distinct from the Ainu.

Sometime in the late Middle Ages the Emeshi pulled out of the North and moved to Fukuoka to serve as a repository of military force for use by the Emperor and the Daimyo.

That allowed the Ainu to relocate from continental coastal regions into the Northernmost Japanese islands without resistance or difficulty.

Talk about causing some problems in figuring out who came first, the Emeshi or the Samurai.

This has been figured out rather recently, but it definitely addresses the problem in Japanese shaministic folktale lore where the BADGER is the chief animal rather than the BEAR as with the Ainu.

The bear cult, though, extends all the way across the Arctic to Northwest Russia and suggests the Ainu were, in the past, far less isolated from world civilization than they now appear.

35 posted on 11/26/2007 7:05:50 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Fraxinus; blam

This is a good discussion of ancient origins of the original american inhabitants. My great, great grandmother was 1/2 ojibwa(canadian tribe)back in the civil war days. As silly as it sounds, back in the jimmy carter days and minority hiring on construction projects, my dad went back to MN and got himself declared an ojibwa tribal member(for “consideration” of course). Thus as a electrical contractor he was the usual 10% minority on construction projects. Silly, but true....


36 posted on 11/26/2007 7:18:20 PM PST by timer (n/0=n=nx0)
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To: timer
"My great, great grandmother was 1/2 ojibwa(canadian tribe)back in the civil war days."

There's a possibility you could be DNA haplogroup 'X'. Twenty five percent of the Ojibwa are 'X'.

37 posted on 11/26/2007 8:12:58 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: timer

Tracing The Genes

38 posted on 11/26/2007 8:16:48 PM PST by blam (Secure the border and enforce the law)
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To: blam

Oppenheimer places X across the Bering Strait, not across the Atlantic.


39 posted on 11/26/2007 8:33:21 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: martin_fierro

Fascinating stuff!


40 posted on 11/26/2007 8:50:35 PM PST by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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