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The Bastion Of Far Left Liberalism Admits Iraq Is Changing Course, ( SF Chronicle Admits it )
Strata-Sphere ^ | Sunday, December 2nd, 2007 at 9:05 am. | AJStrata

Posted on 12/03/2007 9:34:47 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

The San Francisco Chronicle, newspaper of the liberal elite from the West Coast capitol of the far left, is making some astonishing observations today regarding Iraq:

Is the troop surge in Iraq working?

If it is, the battleground at home could shift in ways unthinkable just two months ago: President Bush could be off the ropes and Republicans back on offense. The Democratic Congress and presidential candidates could lose their footing on their biggest issue. And U.S. troop commitments and war funding could be set on a higher, more permanent trajectory.

There is no question that violence in Iraq has ebbed since the troop surge announced by Bush in January reached its full capacity in June with about 162,000 troops. Even Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., chairman of the House subcommittee that controls defense spending, a key ally of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, and a leading Democratic opponent of the war, recently returned from Iraq saying, “I think the surge is working.”

Violence has receded to the levels of January 2006, before the bombing of the Golden Mosque in Samarra set off a sectarian civil war between Shiites and Sunni. By many accounts, al Qaeda in Iraq has been hammered. Sunni tribes, many of them former insurgents, have turned against al Qaeda in Iraq in what is called the Sunni awakening.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; iraqsurge; liberalism
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1 posted on 12/03/2007 9:34:52 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
If things are changing course in Iraq, the MSM would need make General Petraeus Man of the Year. Anyone else would be a travesty.



2 posted on 12/03/2007 9:37:50 AM PST by Plutarch
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To: All
San Francisco Chronicle
Even if surge succeeds, Iraq faces volatile future

****************************EXCERPT*****************************

Already there seems to be a shift in public perception. A Pew poll last month found that nearly half of the public now believes the U.S. military effort is going well "for the first time in a long time," up from a third in June. Still, the 54 percent majority who believe the troops should come home has not budged.

Leading Iraq experts who have advised government officials are divided about the consequences of the troop surge. Political reconciliation among Iraqi factions, always the strategic aim of the decision last January to increase U.S. combat troops, is not in sight.

Some analysts believe that the United States is merely helping warring factions arm themselves during a lull in violence that will explode again once the surge ends as planned by summer - around the time Democrats and Republicans hold their national party conventions. Others say Iraq is on the brink of a long-sought cease-fire that will allow the U.S. military to serve as a classic peacekeeping force stabilizing Iraq and the region.

There is no question that violence in Iraq has ebbed since the troop surge announced by Bush in January reached its full capacity in June with about 162,000 troops. Even Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., chairman of the House subcommittee that controls defense spending, a key ally of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-San Francisco, and a leading Democratic opponent of the war, recently returned from Iraq saying, "I think the surge is working."

3 posted on 12/03/2007 9:38:33 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Plutarch
They are now moving the goal posts...see above...

Meanwhile we have this:

Ahmadinejad offers Gulf Arab states security pact ( Will they accept?)

4 posted on 12/03/2007 9:40:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: jveritas; FARS; Ernest_at_the_Beach; knighthawk; Marine_Uncle; SandRat; Steel Wolf; CAP; ...

Iraq ping.


5 posted on 12/03/2007 9:44:04 AM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is the Jane Fonda of the year.)
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To: Plutarch

I agree. See my tag line.


6 posted on 12/03/2007 9:44:53 AM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is the Jane Fonda of the year.)
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To: Plutarch
"General Petraeus Man of the Year. Anyone else would be a travesty."

I think Time is like the Nobel Prize commitee, "travesty" is not a show stopper. I agree it should be General Petraeus but it's a Presidential political year, look for Time's Dem favorite.

7 posted on 12/03/2007 9:45:07 AM PST by LZ_Bayonet (There's Always Something.............And there's always something worse!)
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To: elhombrelibre; Ernest_at_the_Beach

The goalposts will move once again, and they will find other ways to denigrate the mission and our warriors. That’s what leftists do.


8 posted on 12/03/2007 9:48:11 AM PST by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

No doubt.


9 posted on 12/03/2007 9:49:06 AM PST by elhombrelibre (GEN Petraeus is MAN of the YEAR. Ron Paul is the Jane Fonda of the year.)
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To: elhombrelibre; Ernest_at_the_Beach

As we discussed many times before, it is impossible to hide the news of success and victory no matter how hard liberals and their media try to hide it.


10 posted on 12/03/2007 9:52:08 AM PST by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ALL WE ARE SAYING, IS GIVE VICTORY A CHANCE,,,, ALL WE ARE SAYING IS GIVE VICTORY A CHANCE.


11 posted on 12/03/2007 9:54:27 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: jveritas
It feels good to see the MSM admitting some facts ....regarding Iraq....course they put out the latest spin so as to minimize it!
12 posted on 12/03/2007 9:55:18 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
" They are now moving the goal posts. "
Yup.. might as well move the goal posts out into the parking lot now.
I guess the next thing the Democrats/MSM will find acceptable to them in signs that things are improving in Iraq is for the Iraqies to develop and build a moon rocket and moon rover to go to the moon.. Sarcasm.
13 posted on 12/03/2007 9:58:25 AM PST by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: LZ_Bayonet
...it's a Presidential political year, look for Time's Dem favorite.

Sure they will look for a Dem favorite, but there is no one to pick. French President Nicolas Sarkozy won't do. Maybe Hugo Chavez? Might be they'll have to resort to one of those bogus groups, like Whistleblowers, in which case it would need be Illegal Immigrants.

14 posted on 12/03/2007 10:02:35 AM PST by Plutarch (General Petraeus for Time Magazine's Man of the Year.)
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To: Plutarch; pabianice; jveritas; elhombrelibre
Not a chance...that would be admitting defeat....for the Leftists....

Related article:

Battle of the Surge (Surge is working; Leftists panic)
The Nation ^ | 12/3/07
Posted on 12/03/2007 8:14:31 AM PST by pabianice

*************Intro Excerpt *****************

[from the December 17, 2007 issue]

Any decline in violence in Iraq is welcome. But the relative quiet that reigns in Baghdad does not mean that the troop surge has been successful. This elementary point--which even some antiwar Democrats hesitate to make--now routinely elicits accusations of "defeatism" and worse from Republicans and their water carriers in the media. Yet it is the war party's triumphalism that deserves to be met with outrage. Did they think no one would notice that they have rewritten the script? The surge was supposed to improve security as a means to an end; the end was to find a political solution for Iraq's internal conflicts. In President Bush's own words, "Victory in Iraq will bring something new in the Arab world--a functioning democracy that polices its territory, upholds the rule of law, respects fundamental human liberties and answers to its people.

15 posted on 12/03/2007 10:05:40 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Weather report from hell: freezing cold today...


16 posted on 12/03/2007 10:11:07 AM PST by y6162
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This AM CNN announced an astonishing turn around in Iraq....just about one month late on the reporting. Then they commenced to interveiw Murtha and his rehearshed “small window of opportunity”. Yuk!


17 posted on 12/03/2007 10:18:22 AM PST by raisincane (Dims think we're all oblivious to the obvious)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Jack Murtha says, "Oops! I crapped my pants."

18 posted on 12/03/2007 10:22:43 AM PST by RoadKingSE (How do you know that that light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They have to admit it because if they remain in denial for too much longer, they are going to look like idiots for the 2008 election.
19 posted on 12/03/2007 10:27:05 AM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
in Iraq has ebbed since the troop surge announced by Bush in January reached its full capacity in June with about 162,000 troops.

"Full capacity"? You mean we con't find room for just one more company, brigade, or battalion?

20 posted on 12/03/2007 10:30:38 AM PST by Teacher317 (Eta kuram na smekh)
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