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Yes, McCain!
Jewish World Review ^ | 2/14/08 | Larry Elder

Posted on 02/14/2008 1:28:18 AM PST by MartinaMisc

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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

States rights do not trump God-given unalienable rights, the protection of which are the primary reason for the very existence of government.

Like too many now, you obviously don’t understand the difference between enumerated powers and enumerated and unenumerated rights.

Your views in this matter, which are shared by far too many now, are destroying America.


41 posted on 02/14/2008 5:36:00 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day

Yeah, but the Declaration of Independence is NOT the U.S. Constitution.


42 posted on 02/14/2008 5:36:00 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: EternalVigilance

Sorry, but you are wrong.


43 posted on 02/14/2008 5:36:57 AM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: MartinaMisc

Screw McCain.


44 posted on 02/14/2008 5:37:31 AM PST by RetiredArmy (VOTED: Disgruntled Voter of the Month)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Yeah, but the Declaration of Independence is NOT the U.S. Constitution.

Ah, I see. You're one of those who thinks our rights come from the Constitution.

45 posted on 02/14/2008 5:43:20 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Sorry, but you are wrong.

Sorry, but I'm not. Minus the duty to protect the lives and liberty of the sovereign people of this country, this government has no reason to exist.

You've bought the very lie that is destroying the foundation stone of American liberty.

46 posted on 02/14/2008 5:46:11 AM PST by EternalVigilance (Oh say does that star-spangled banner yet wave o’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?)
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To: ari-freedom

“they are the same conservatives that allowed clinton to be president for 8 years because H W Bush and Dole weren’t good enough”

You got any facts to back that up? I voted for Bush 41, twice, Bob Dole and Bush 43, twice. But it will be a cold day in hell before I vote for McCain.


47 posted on 02/14/2008 5:47:22 AM PST by LadyNavyVet (“I will offer a choice, not an echo.” Barry Goldwater)
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To: MartinaMisc
"Are these the same Republicans who cheerfully voted for then-Gov. George W. Bush in 2000? "

I think I've discovered his problem.

48 posted on 02/14/2008 5:47:46 AM PST by Designer
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“While the federal government does have the duty to upheld the U.S. Constitution, there is NO provision in the document that orders the government to “protect and defend life”, as you put it. That is a matter left for the states, under the 10th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.”

When the US Constituion was ratified in 1787, it included the Bill of Rights, which declared some specific restrictions on the federal government.

“No person shall...nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;...”

The Fifth Amenment’s Due Process REQUIREMENT of the US Constitution.

Under the Fourteenth Amendment, the Due Process clause was incorporated, making the Due Process clause binding on state governments as well as the federal govt.

The Equal Protection clause was added to ensure its uniform application to all persons, commonly understood throughout history and, until 1973, as human beings.

“...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;

nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

Terri Schiavo was “deprived of life” under a Florida court order.

She was denied equal protection of the law.

The state has no constitutional or moral authority to order innocent people to death.

The federal government has a constitutional duty to defend innocent human life.

Anyone who tells you the state has the right to kill innocent human beings under its state rights umbrella is a liar.


49 posted on 02/14/2008 5:48:41 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: TinaJeannes
Bush said a couple of days ago, gitmo should be closed.

Bush has held the position to close the prison facilities at GITMO and have them relocated to another military installation for some time. It's a matter of practicality and security. That's totally different than McCaine's deluded reasoning.

50 posted on 02/14/2008 5:51:44 AM PST by TADSLOS (Be a 3.6 percenter- Write in Duncan Hunter for POTUS!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

“If you subscribe to true Conservative principles and classic federalism, “

I do subscribe to Conservative principles and classic federalism.

I believe, as the founders did, that life comes from God.

I believe, as the founders did, that capital offenses, after being tried in court, following Due Process and Equal Protection requirements, may have capital punishment as their consequence.

I believe, as the founders did, that power should be shared, and not concentrated in the hands of a few.

I believe, as the founders did, that in order to prevent tyranny, some duties, such as the duty to protect innocent human life, should be shared by all levels of govt, while other responsibilities should be reserved to the states. This is classic federalism.

I believe in adhering to those principles and applying those principles to all innocent human beings.

I beleive in CONSERVING the foundational principles of our government, no matter which Johnny Come Lately tries to redefine the meaning of Conservatism or federalism.


51 posted on 02/14/2008 6:00:36 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: ari-freedom
"(True conservatives don't help Democrats win.)"

True conservativres don't vote for a 'Rat just because he's attached an "R" to his name.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

52 posted on 02/14/2008 6:01:12 AM PST by wku man (BLOAT while you can...)
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To: ari-freedom
they are the same conservatives that allowed clinton to be president for 8 years because H W Bush and Dole weren’t good enough

Only morons blame the voters who refuse to vote for crappy candidates.

Or as you one of those stupid consumers who buy junk just because it is offered to you?

Do you buy spoiled meat just because is it the only thing left in the market cooler?

53 posted on 02/14/2008 6:04:43 AM PST by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO cuz I'm too conservative to be a Republican.)
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To: ari-freedom
they are the same conservatives that allowed clinton to be president for 8 years because H W Bush and Dole weren’t good enough

You see, this is why the GOP is in trouble. This level of thinking that it couldn't possibly be due to putting up lousy candidates for conservatives to support. It's all those petulant little conservatives who won't line up like good little sheep. The GOP is blinded by their own hubris and in a continuous stream of denial.

54 posted on 02/14/2008 6:14:25 AM PST by TADSLOS (Be a 3.6 percenter- Write in Duncan Hunter for POTUS!)
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To: TADSLOS

I wish I could do as your tag suggests. I’m told my state will throw out my ballot if I do.


55 posted on 02/14/2008 6:21:53 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: indylindy
>>McCain is running against his own base and does not really want our vote. He would rather get the votes from independents and Democrats.<<


56 posted on 02/14/2008 6:30:20 AM PST by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

That’s great. Your tag is great, too.


57 posted on 02/14/2008 6:49:36 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Precisely! And Yes, your tagline is superb.


58 posted on 02/14/2008 6:51:06 AM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: 8mmMauser

Terri is mentioned in this. I thought you’d like to know.


59 posted on 02/14/2008 8:00:16 AM PST by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: fetal heart beats by 21st day
Thank you for the ping! I didn't realize someone would make a thread of it. I posted it to our Terri Dailies this morning, as post #189.

Here it is.

......................

The McCain Scrutiny...

"No McCain!" sez I...

This from Townhall of all places and Larry Elder.

In this case I guess I don't respect my Elders...

Are these the same Republicans who, pre-9/11, empathized with President Bush as he agonized over his decision to use federal funds for research on pre-existing embryonic stem cell lines? Federal funds! Are these the same limited-government Republicans who, post-9/11, sided with Bush when he expanded the Cabinet with the Department of Homeland Security -- demonstrating the Washington, D.C., axiom that another bureaucracy cures inefficient bureaucracy?

Are these the same principled states' rights Republicans who applauded when Congress big-footed its way into Florida's Terri Schiavo case? And how many conservative pundits still cheer when President Bush -- as he does often -- promises to use American power not merely for self-defense against Islamofascism, but to promote "the spread of liberty" throughout the world?...........

Yes, McCain!
8mm

Terri Dailies

8mm


60 posted on 02/14/2008 8:26:16 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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