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Guns, Whores, and Interstate Commerce - Double Standard
Vanity | 12 Mar 2008 | Coloradan

Posted on 03/12/2008 6:29:20 AM PDT by coloradan

Spitzer is apparently in violation of the Mann act, which prohibits transportation of women across state lines "for an immoral purpose." Apparently the justification of this law comes from the interstate commerce clause.

But when it comes to guns, federal laws are enacted to prohibit or require something for guns "which have ever traveled in or affect" interstate commerce, which is essentially all of them. (Unless you mine the iron, make the steel, and then make the gun all in one state, apparently.)

Most girls "have ever traveled in or affect" interstate commerce, but this isn't good enough for the Mann act, what is prohibited is the specific act of interstate transport for a specific purpose.

No such requirement arises for, e.g. proposed gun show regulations, background check requirements, and the ban of guns ("having traveled in or affecting interstate commerce") being within 1000 feet of a school zone, etc. If they've EVER traveled in interstate commerce, or if their mere existence could arguably affect said commerce, it's fair game for federal regulation, apparently.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: banglist; democratparty; interstatecommerce; spitzer
There's a clear double standard.
1 posted on 03/12/2008 6:29:21 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: coloradan
the Mann act

That's funny.

2 posted on 03/12/2008 6:32:06 AM PDT by Huck (Support OBAMA in 08--He's a better choice than McCain! Ask any conservative!)
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To: coloradan

It’s too bad Warren Zevon is gone. I think he could get a song out of this.


3 posted on 03/12/2008 6:35:15 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: coloradan
Apparently the justification of this law comes from the interstate commerce clause.

FDR's maybe. Not Madison's by a long shot.

4 posted on 03/12/2008 6:35:38 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: coloradan
Guns, Whores, and Interstate Commerce - Double Standard

Saw that and thought... BATF again?

5 posted on 03/12/2008 6:36:09 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: coloradan

Hard to get too excited about creating loopholes for criminals who use guns, though.


6 posted on 03/12/2008 6:36:58 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: coloradan

You’re surprised that theres a double standard with these two subjects?


7 posted on 03/12/2008 6:46:20 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Brilliant

Since the “crime” part of what you just posted is already given, no other “loopholes” matter - you already have what you need to convict. If murder, armed robbery, reckless endangerment, etc., remain illegal, you don’t need a federal law banning possession of guns to put people who do these things in jail.


8 posted on 03/12/2008 6:46:22 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

“If murder, armed robbery, reckless endangerment, etc., remain illegal, you don’t need a federal law banning possession of guns to put people who do these things in jail.”

You need a federal law if your intent is to take power away from the states.


9 posted on 03/12/2008 6:48:50 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Joe Brower

Some “original research” on FR, i.e. a vanity.


10 posted on 03/12/2008 6:54:04 AM PDT by coloradan (The US is becoming a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan
I have no doubt that a creature as corrupt and self-serving as Spitzer is guilty of all of this and more. Like most such individuals, though, he'll slide on most of it and fade into obscurity.
11 posted on 03/12/2008 7:12:41 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: coloradan
This fiasco/disgrace could not have happened to a bigger jerk, who was a sworn enemy of the 2nd Amd.


12 posted on 03/12/2008 7:16:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: coloradan

Possibly. But what if the only role the defendant played in the crime was that he transported the guns across state lines?

Usually, the transportation of the guns is simply used to increase the prison sentence. My view is that criminals get off way too easy anyway. Penalizing them for transporting guns is kind of a stupid remedy for that, but at least it’s something.


13 posted on 03/12/2008 7:34:04 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: tacticalogic; Theodore R.; coloradan
FDR's maybe. Not Madison's by a long shot.

More like Theodore Roosevelt.

14 posted on 03/12/2008 7:34:26 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: TLI

BATFW


15 posted on 03/12/2008 7:38:34 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Joe Brower

Well, while obscurity is better than he deserves, at least it’s better for us than to have this moron in our face 24/7 and fearing him beocming the next Dem presidential candidate. Count your blessings, I guess.


16 posted on 03/12/2008 7:52:23 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: palmer
BATFW

heeheehee!

17 posted on 03/12/2008 8:53:07 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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