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1 posted on 03/13/2008 4:09:16 AM PDT by Man50D
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Not this crap again.
2 posted on 03/13/2008 4:15:55 AM PDT by period end of story
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To: Man50D
The meeting was held under "Chatham House" rules that prohibit reporters from attributing specific comments to individual participants.

WTF?

3 posted on 03/13/2008 4:17:18 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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To: Man50D

The last time I heard about this it was in between a discussion on alien UFO abductions and a story about ghost hunters, on Coast To Coast Am.


6 posted on 03/13/2008 4:25:56 AM PDT by maquiladora
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There’s a place for skepticism, but it’s not where an eyewitness reports a real meeting and shows that it is true fact.


7 posted on 03/13/2008 4:34:36 AM PDT by RoadTest ( "Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:" - L 12:51)
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No members of Congress attended the meeting.

Of course not.

32 posted on 03/13/2008 5:51:14 AM PDT by upchuck (Who wins doesn't matter. They're all liberals. Spend your time and money to take back Congress.)
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ping


34 posted on 03/13/2008 6:02:25 AM PDT by Designer
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No members of Congress attended the meeting.

They all think we just made it up.

35 posted on 03/13/2008 6:04:13 AM PDT by Designer
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We will just have to wait until the Canadian or Mexican press leaks the story. Something is up because of the Obama and Hillary promising to renegotiate NAFTA.

Isn't is curious how that cheap illegal labor is consider a ‘free market’ idea.

40 posted on 03/13/2008 6:40:12 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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bttt


68 posted on 03/13/2008 9:20:43 AM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we write in marble. JHuett)
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To: Man50D
hmmmm...

Read Glenn Beck's book, "An Inconvenient Book." Last chapter is fascinating...

But I wasn't sure if that chapter was a conspiracy theory or not --> still thinking about it.

77 posted on 03/13/2008 9:52:33 AM PDT by xtinct (I was the next door neighbor kid's imaginary friend.)
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BUMP


79 posted on 03/13/2008 9:56:35 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist Ping list - freepmail me to get on or off.)
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THAILAND!
91 posted on 03/13/2008 10:12:00 AM PDT by Redcloak ("A plague o' both your houses!")
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Excerpt: "WND observed about 25 ACIEP members, including U.S. corporations...."

"U.S. corporations?"

What is a U.S. corporation in the minds of these people? That term is becoming "passe."

That lack of observance to nationhood is one of the problems of the heart of this monster, that must be killed.

94 posted on 03/13/2008 10:22:36 AM PDT by unspun (Mike Huckabee: Government's job is "protect us, not have to provide for us." Duncan Hunter knows.)
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I’ve never thought of FR as a loony bin, but if this is breaking news, then I’m in kookville.


105 posted on 03/13/2008 10:54:48 AM PDT by xjcsa (I hated McCain before hating McCain was cool.)
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>>WND observed about 25 ACIEP members, including U.S. corporations involved in international trade, prominent U.S. business trade groups, law firms involved with international business law, international investment firms and other international trade consultants.<<

I would guess this was preparatory meeting for the meeting in July ACIEP has held for last 10 years (at least) where an assistant Secretary of State thanks the ACIEP for making the nominations for the Secretary of State’s Award for Corporate Excellence (ACE) and to update the ACIEP members on economic developments like G-8 and World Economic summit. That meeting is usually in July.

And then in October or November they have the actual ACE awards where the Secretary of state shows up.

It makes me wonder did WND know all this and not publish it or do they know even less about the ACIEP’s schedule than I do? I’m guessing they knew if they were able to identify that many ACIEP members by sight - I couldn’t do that. Although it seems like they would have identified the corporations.


157 posted on 03/13/2008 12:36:05 PM PDT by gondramB (Preach the Gospel at all times, and when necessary, use words.)
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“A largely unreported meeting held at the State Department discussed integration of the U.S., Mexico and Canada in concert with a move toward a transatlantic union, linking a North American community with the European Union.

The meeting was held Monday under the auspices of the Advisory Committee on International Economic Policy, or ACIEP. WND obtained press credentials and attended as an observer. The meeting was held under “Chatham House” rules that prohibit reporters from attributing specific comments to individual participants. “

Is this not a violation of the Federal “Sunshine Laws”?!!


160 posted on 03/13/2008 12:54:57 PM PDT by mo
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Creating a Transatlantic Common Market

Very quietly, behind the scenes, a little known NGO has been working to advance plans to merge the United States with Europe. No one has heard of the work of this group, the Transatlantic Policy Network (TPN), because it has never been covered by the mainstream media....

These efforts have garnered significant transoceanic support, both from political and business leaders, for TPN’s plan. In 2004 and again in 2005, the EU parliament passed resolutions “in which the concept of completing the transatlantic market by 2015 is supported.” TPN notes with apparent satisfaction that the U.S. Congress has done likewise and points out that the “House of Representatives has also passed a resolution endorsing the concept of a ‘Transatlantic Partnership Agreement’ between the EU and the US.”

For those keeping track of Congressional malfeasance, this legislation, H. Res. 390, was introduced in the House by Nebraska Republican Doug Bereuter on October 2, 2003. It passed the House little more than a month later on November 5. The resolution found that the “United States and the European community are aware of their shared responsibility, not only to further transatlantic security, but to address other common interests such as environmental protection, poverty reduction, combatting international crime and promoting human rights, and to work together to meet those transnational challenges which affect the well-being of all.”

Moreover, it found that because of the “threats posed by global terrorism, terrorist states, the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, and the nexus of the three, the partnership should be expanded progressively from a transatlantic community of values to an effective transatlantic community of action by developing a collaborative strategy and action plan for dealing with those challenges of mutual interest and concern.”

There are many other important legislators on both sides of the Atlantic that continue to back the integration plan, and some of them actually serve as leaders within TPN itself. The most prominent of these is Republican Senator Robert Bennett of Utah. Bennett is chairman of the TPN Management Committee, one of the top leadership positions at TPN, according to the organization’s Website. The Honorary U.S. President of TPN is Robert S. Strauss, a key Carter administration official and former ambassador to the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation. Joining Strauss and Bennett in TPN leadership positions are: Former Congressman Jim Kolbe (R-AZ) — now Senior Transatlantic Fellow at the German Marshall Fund of the US, another group promoting U.S.-EU integration; Democratic Congressman Ron Kind of Wisconsin who has been an active supporter in Congress of regional free trade agreements; Former Congressman Mike Oxley (R-Ohio), infamous co-author of the notorious Sarbanes-Oxley Act that, as described by Congressman Ron Paul, unconstitutionally gave “the federal government authority to regulate the accounting standards of private corporations” in the wake of the Enron and other financial scandals of the early part of the decade. In addition to these U.S. legislators serving in leadership positions with TPN, there are many others who are members of TPN’s “U.S. Congressional Group.” These include six Senators — the aforementioned Senator Bennett of Utah, Thad Cochran (R-Mississippi), Chuck Hagel (R-Nebraska), Barbara Mikulski (D-Maryland), Pat Roberts (R-Kansas), Gordon Smith (R-Oregon) – and 49 Representatives. Some of the noteworthy members of the latter cohort include former chairman of the House Judiciary Committee F. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wisconsin), current Chairman of the House Foreign Relations Committee Tom Lantos (D-California), Chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee John Dingell (D-Michigan), and current House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio).

Among think tanks, the TPN membership list is a who’s who of internationalism-promoting groups. Included on the list is the granddaddy of them all, the Council on Foreign Relations. Joining the CFR is the Atlantic Council of the United States which seeks a “healthy transatlantic relationship” as “an essential prerequisite for a stronger international system.” Other organizations serving as TPN members include:


181 posted on 03/13/2008 2:11:42 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Is this accurate:

Rockefeller’s Memoirs (Random House, New York, 2002) Chapter 27, pages 404 and 405. Cited by Dr. Dennis Cuddy:

“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.


192 posted on 03/13/2008 3:18:06 PM PDT by Globalist Goon ("Head down over a saddle.")
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Enlarged United States of America.

So many comments..... wow.

230 posted on 03/13/2008 6:04:54 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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To: Man50D
At least up to the first 50 comments, no freeper seems to have commented that they're supposedly moving toward a transatlantic union, merging the NAFTA states and the EU into one union.

Personally would view adding all of the other states in the Americas into the United States as the option to pick over merging the NAFTA states and the EU. Latin America is much poorer, by and large, than EU states, but a country covering both continents in the Americas is more easily defensible than a country split by an ocean, especially when the more populous part (the EU) has a land border with Russia and Asia, and has Africa to the south; Muslims to the south and southeast.

In terms of illegal immigration alone, that is a pool of over 3 billion people who could theoretically walk across the border into THE NAFTA+EU Alliance. Militarily, Europe could soon be run over. Internally, Europe doesn't look so safe. As decline in pride in their countries among the citizenry combined with Muslim immigrants who refuse to assimilate doesn't bode all that great for Europe. Besides trying to keep the 'white' people together in a growing world with shifting geopolitics, unifying North America and Europe doesn't make much sense on several levels.

234 posted on 03/13/2008 6:18:45 PM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu ( What is your take on Acts 15:20 (abstaining from blood) about eating meat? Could you freepmail?)
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