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Shift on war hits Obama's liberal base
Washington Times ^ | Tuesday, July 15, 2008 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 07/14/2008 10:14:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Sen. John McCain on Monday accused his Democratic presidential rival of flip-flopping on the war in Iraq, as a pair of new polls showed the Republican's strategy of painting Sen. Barack Obama as politically expedient is beginning to take hold with voters.

As Mr. Obama repositions himself for the general election after exclusively targeting the Democratic base of committed liberals, it leaves some voters on the left feeling he is abandoning them on their top issue - Iraq - and has independents questioning his veracity.

"If a perception takes hold that a candidate is flip-flopping on core convictions, that will hurt," pollster Scott Rasmussen said, noting that nearly a third of voters are "up for grabs" this fall.

A Fox 5/The Washington Times/Rasmussen Reports poll shows 19 percent of voters classified as "other" - neither Republican nor Democrat - think that on the Iraq war, Mr. Obama is "abandoning voters that got him nominated." (Eleven percent of Democrats agree.) About 20 percent of independents think Mr. Obama is "not really going to change his opinion" on a U.S. withdrawal within 16 months of taking office, a pledge he has made repeatedly.

A Newsweek poll found similar dissatisfaction among voters over Mr. Obama's shifts in policy positions. In the survey, 53 percent of voters said he recalibrated his stances on key issues such as the war and President Bush's new electronic surveillance law in order to gain political advantage.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2008; afghanistan; angrydems; flipflop; flipflops; foreignpolicy; hillary; iraq; iraqsurge; liberalvote; obama; pakistan; taliban
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1 posted on 07/14/2008 10:14:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: NormsRevenge; elhombrelibre; Allegra; SandRat; tobyhill; G8 Diplomat; Dog; Cap Huff; ...
And from the Blogosphere ...Flopping Aces:

Obama Writes A Winner In The NYT’s Today ( Heavy Sarcasm and analysis of previous statements by Obama)

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2 posted on 07/14/2008 10:18:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
His Euro buddies could be dismayed at the latest development. Their “American Hero” falters.
3 posted on 07/14/2008 10:24:17 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (kim jong-il, chia head, ppogri, In Grim Reaper we trust)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A presidential Dumocrat nominee who FLIP FLOPS???

What are the odds of that happening...hmmm, anyone feel some Deja Vu?


4 posted on 07/14/2008 10:39:20 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wow. The fact that the progress has finally become impossible for the media to conceal must really be chapping the leftists' hides.

I feel their pain. NOT. ;-)

5 posted on 07/14/2008 10:45:56 PM PDT by Allegra (If you lived here, you'd be home by now.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Obama can’t “reposition” himself for the general election, because he opted out of federal matching funds, so he is beholden to the left-wing fringe of the Democrat party now to finance his general election bid. It was a strategic campaign killing blunder.


6 posted on 07/14/2008 11:22:20 PM PDT by counterpunch (John McCain - For the LOVE of Country)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Doctor Raoul; dirtboy; Congressman Billybob; kristinn

Look, David Plouffe is the man steering Obama’s campaign.

If the name means anything to anyone, that’s because he engineered the Torriceli Switch for Lautenberg in the NJ Senate Race...long after the deadline had passed for the Dems to switch Senate candidates on the ballot...because Torriceli was losing to the GOP.

Well, ask yourself why *THAT MAN* Plouffe is now positioned for the same switch for Hillary.

The Dems finalize their nominee in August at their Denver Convention. Look for the Torriceli Switch there, or later.


7 posted on 07/14/2008 11:32:50 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: counterpunch

Husein will still have plenty of money from anti-American interests bundled from abroad and funneled through the internet. Isn’t that were much of the seed money originated?


8 posted on 07/15/2008 2:27:33 AM PDT by Gemsbok (blood -hound tasting fresh blood on the obamination trail)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for the Ping, Ernest! Your link pretty much spells it out.

“Recalibrated”, eh? That must be the new term for a flip-flopping, politically expedient, finger in the air, valueless t*rd.

9 posted on 07/15/2008 2:29:55 AM PDT by singfreedom
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The man is a bull shit artist. About all McCain and the RNC can do is prepare carefully blended adds showing the clown for what he is and hope the majority of voters can actually see he would be a very poor choice for POTUS and the CIC.

10 posted on 07/15/2008 4:05:32 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice...Now we are left with a bunch of idiots.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
There aren't enough liberals and leftists to get Obama elected President and he knows his views are political toxin to the general electorate. So he has to lie to get elected in November.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

11 posted on 07/15/2008 4:06:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Southack

“The Dems finalize their nominee in August at their Denver Convention. Look for the Torriceli Switch there, or later.”

If they do that, the Dems will lose the black vote and probably for a long, long time.


12 posted on 07/15/2008 4:10:45 AM PDT by Londo Molari
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The liberal boomarang effect in action: Obama Lies
13 posted on 07/15/2008 4:27:55 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From article: "He's never said he wants to win in Iraq," Mr. Scheunemann said. "He said he wants to withdraw from Iraq and he said that if he's president he will order his commanders to withdraw," which the adviser said would result in his giving generals orders to "lose a war they are on the way to winning."

Please take note of this, here at FR:

Iraq's July Mid-Point (a single-digit month?)

14 posted on 07/15/2008 4:40:39 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Next week Obama’s going to announce that he’s really a white guy with a tan. It’s been polled as bringing in 10 points from other white guys with tans.


15 posted on 07/15/2008 6:03:45 AM PDT by toddlintown (Morons; all of 'em.)
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To: Southack; backhoe; Allegra; jveritas; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; blam; SunkenCiv; ...
Could it happen....?

Could it be that the New Yorker Cover and enclosed article are not so innocent after all...tinfoil hat firmly on my head:

BBC: Obama team decry satirical image ( New Yorker Cover for article on Obama's Chicago roots )

16 posted on 07/15/2008 10:57:22 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; counterpunch; Allegra; max americana; Gemsbok; singfreedom; Marine_Uncle; ...
Updates ping...see #7.

Going looking....for another thread....that seems appropriate....

17 posted on 07/15/2008 11:02:51 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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OK...here is the thread I was looking for:

Hillary Supporters Planning to Nomination Her at Dem Convention

18 posted on 07/15/2008 11:05:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: All; 2ndDivisionVet
Here is another thread....

Hill Democrats miffed at Obama

*********************EXCERPT Intro**********************

After a brief bout of Obamamania, some Capitol Hill Democrats have begun to complain privately that Barack Obama’s presidential campaign is insular, uncooperative and inattentive to their hopes for a broad Democratic victory in November.

“They think they know what’s right and everyone else is wrong on everything,” groused one senior Senate Democratic aide. “They are kind of insufferable at this point.”

Among the grievances described by Democratic leadership insiders:

• Until a mailing that went out in the past few days, Obama had done little fundraising for Democratic candidates since signing off on e-mailed fundraising appeals for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee immediately after securing the Democratic nomination.

• Obama has sometimes appeared in members’ districts with no advance notice to lawmakers, resulting in lost opportunities for those Democrats to score points by appearing alongside their party’s presumptive presidential nominee.

• The Obama campaign has not, until very recently, coordinated a daily message with congressional Democrats, leaving Democratic members in the lurch when they’re asked to comment on the constant back and forth between Obama and John McCain — as they were when Obama said earlier this month that he would “continue to refine” his Iraq policies after meeting with commanders on the ground there.

• Coordination between the Obama campaign and the House and Senate leadership is so weak that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) — who will chair the Democrats’ convention in August — didn’t know of Obama’s decision to move his final-night acceptance speech from the Pepsi Center to Invesco Field until the campaign announced it on a conference call with reporters.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton dismissed the criticism as not-for-attribution complaints of staffers who aren’t knowledgeable about the campaign’s Hill coordination efforts.

“It’s a favorite parlor game in Washington for low-level staff to take shots at anyone they can, given the opportunity,” Burton said. “But as leadership aides across the Hill have confirmed even in this story, we have a constructive working relationship with the House and Senate leadership and continue to work with them to bring about the change the American people demand this November.”

On the record, spokesmen for Democratic leaders and the campaign committees say they’re pleased with the coordination they’re getting from the Obama campaign.

“We have a great relationship with the Obama campaign and work closely with them on everything from message strategy to on-the-ground coordination in states where we have races,” said DSCC spokesman Matthew Miller. Jennifer Crider, the DCCC’s communications director, said the DCCC and the Obama campaign are working together “to bring our change agenda to the country.”

Privately, however, there is a different message coming from some Democratic quarters on the Hill and on K Street. Some Democratic leadership staffers complain that, having defeated the vaunted Clinton political machine in the primaries, the Obama campaign now feels a “sense of entitlement” that leads to “arrogance.”

One Democratic aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, compared the Obama campaign unfavorably to President Bush’s administration.

“At least Bush waited until he was in the White House before they started ignoring everybody,” the aide said.

19 posted on 07/15/2008 11:10:49 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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Adding this thread to the resource list:

Full Text of Obama's Iraq Speech (The Teleprompter Kid Shoots Himself in the Foot)

20 posted on 07/15/2008 11:28:11 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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