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Criminal family twist: Suspect shot dead (with own gun)
NY Daily News ^ | 09 July 08 | ALISON GENDAR AND TAMER EL-GHOBASHY

Posted on 07/15/2008 9:03:43 PM PDT by Drew68

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To: Drew68

NY Post

Bloods member Grant Fleming, 21, was shot in the chest three times after he sneaked up behind a man walking into his Jersey Street apartment with a bag of groceries.

The targeted victim grabbed Fleming’s gun and opened fire.


41 posted on 07/15/2008 11:09:21 PM PDT by kcvl
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Police said Fleming had a lengthy criminal record, including criminal contempt, robbery, and illegal possession of guns


42 posted on 07/15/2008 11:13:48 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
"It’s sad to see a complete waste of an entire generation within a family. "

It’s RIGHTEOUS to see a complete waste of an entire generation within THIS family.

43 posted on 07/15/2008 11:38:42 PM PDT by matthew fuller (I'm John McCain, and I hereby repudiate and disavow all Republican and Conservative values.)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

“It’s sad to see a complete waste of an entire generation within a family.”

No, it’s not. This family should have been exterminated a long time ago. Hopefully, these boys didn’t leave and heirs.


44 posted on 07/16/2008 4:06:56 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: LibWhacker

I suppose those bikes are stolen?


45 posted on 07/16/2008 4:08:09 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: heartwood

“I don’t know why some posters on FR seem to think it’s a good idea that criminals will be raped in prison.”

Why not? Our justice system sure won’t deal with them.


46 posted on 07/16/2008 4:09:31 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: Drew68

Rehabilitation through reincarnation!

Well done!!


47 posted on 07/16/2008 4:12:52 AM PDT by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: arthurus

Gunman is a favorite term of the MSM. It is one of the terms used to make gun owners seem evil. In this particular case it is especially obnoxious since this guy was defending himself and did the country a favor by taking this a**hat out. The guy who was killed was the real “gunman” and they know it. They simply don’t like people defending themselves.


48 posted on 07/16/2008 4:27:39 AM PDT by calex59
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To: kcvl
"Yeah, what he did was definatly stupid, and in a strange way he did get what he deserved."

Sir,

This was about your only statement that was truthful. Even it is not completely correct. It was not in a strange way, but in a righteous way. Your "friend" made a lot of poor choices right up to his death I'm sure. Question, since I'm sure that this is not the first crime he perpetrated, do you have this much feelings and sympathy for his victims? That's where my feelings lie. Here's to hoping that the mother of his children has a little more sense than he did and raises his kids correctly. If you care that much, then make sure his kids learn to respect others and be good citizens and do not let them get into a life of crime like their Dad.
49 posted on 07/16/2008 5:13:36 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: calex59

Parse the sentence there. Gunman does not directly refer to either person. The assumption should be that “gunman” refers to the robber because he is the one who was carrying the gun with intent to use. People reading quickly assume that “gunman” refers to the victim because normally a pronoun would be used in that position but “gunman” in this use does not refer back to the person who was robbed. There was surely no attempt to make the robbee the gunman, merely a determination to use the word “gunman” in the piece. It was used awkwardly because normally a pronoun would be appropriate in that position i.e. “he” instead of “the gunman.” The sentence is an assault on plain English, not on the successful self-defender.


50 posted on 07/16/2008 5:47:31 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: caver

Bikes? Hell, everything in that backyard probably, including the swimming pool and the trampoline!


51 posted on 07/16/2008 6:16:10 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
You need to address that response to MsSunKiss. I just posted her reply from another website. If you will notice my post lists her name at the top as she is the one saying that not me.
52 posted on 07/16/2008 7:55:41 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Drew68

“”This family is very well known to us on Staten Island for their long and glorious history of criminal behavior,” a police source said.

“Glorious”? really?


53 posted on 07/16/2008 8:31:11 AM PDT by monday
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To: caver

>Our justice system sure won’t deal with them.<

We no longer have a justice system. Today we have a legal system. Just processes the criminals without too much concern for guilt or innocence. UNLESS they can afford a good lawyer.


54 posted on 07/16/2008 8:58:07 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Having custody of a loaded weapon does not arm you. The skill to use the weapon is what arms a man.)
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To: B4Ranch

“We no longer have a justice system. Today we have a legal system. Just processes the criminals without too much concern for guilt or innocence. UNLESS they can afford a good lawyer.”

Well put!


55 posted on 07/16/2008 9:05:33 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: kcvl
"You need to address that response to MsSunKiss. I just posted her reply from another website. If you will notice my post lists her name at the top as she is the one saying that not me."

Whoops!! Sorry bout' that dude/dudet
56 posted on 07/16/2008 9:51:39 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

That’s okay. I should have made it a little clearer.


57 posted on 07/16/2008 10:41:56 AM PDT by kcvl
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