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'Maverick' McCain Loses Middle As Conservatives Also Hold Back (IBD Poll)
Investor's Business Daily ^ | July 16, 2008 | Investor's Business Daily

Posted on 07/16/2008 10:39:35 PM PDT by FocusNexus

Despite worsening economic conditions and a news backdrop that supposedly favors Democrats, presumed Republican standard-bearer John McCain remains only 3 points behind rival Barack Obama in the latest IBD/TIPP Poll.

But the poll also shows McCain isn't pulling as well as expected from the independents and moderates to whom his "maverick" reputation was thought to appeal. He also has yet to close the sale with his party's conservative base.

Compared with the 78% support that McCain has with Republicans in general, conservatives back him by 67%, with 17% still undecided. Obama polls 13% among conservatives.

In sharp contrast, liberals favor Obama by 85%-7% , with just 4% of them undecided.

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008polls; conservatives; electionpresident; elections; ibd; ibdpoll; mavericks; mccain; mccainlist; mccaintruthfile; obama; obamacons; poll; rino
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I keep marveling at those 13% of "conservatives" who plan to actually vote for Obama.

1 posted on 07/16/2008 10:39:38 PM PDT by FocusNexus
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To: FocusNexus

An excellent post. Very informative.


2 posted on 07/16/2008 10:42:45 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: FocusNexus

3 posted on 07/16/2008 10:42:45 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: FocusNexus
Obama polls 13% among conservatives.

I don't believe those are really conservatives .

4 posted on 07/16/2008 10:44:00 PM PDT by oldbrowser (It's not an energy crisis, it's a worthless politicians crisis.)
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To: FocusNexus

In other news, avowed traitors favor Obambi, 100% - Zero.

Implicit traitors (not quite openly boasting of the fact) also favor Obambi, 100% to Zero.


5 posted on 07/16/2008 10:45:22 PM PDT by Enchante (BILL AYERS: "Now THESE are the Obamas I knew! Thank you, New Yorker, for showing my real friends!")
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I guess I can understand a conservative not voting for McCain...sit at home or vote for Barr or something.

But how could you vote FOR Obama and still call yourself a conservative? Are some people so mad they will vote FOR Obama just to stick it to the GOP and American public?


6 posted on 07/16/2008 10:46:22 PM PDT by Crimson Elephant
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p.s. For any liberal lurkers who have trouble with logic or set theory, I assert that all traitors favor Obama. That does not imply that all Obama supporters are traitors...... although there is some overlap.


7 posted on 07/16/2008 10:47:06 PM PDT by Enchante (BILL AYERS: "Now THESE are the Obamas I knew! Thank you, New Yorker, for showing my real friends!")
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To: oldbrowser; pissant

See this article, posted by pissant:

I’m a lifelong conservative activist and I’m backing Barack Obama (by Larry Hunter)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2046715/posts

“I’m a lifelong Republican - a supply-side conservative. I worked in the Reagan White House. I was the chief economist at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce for five years. In 1994, I helped write the Republican Contract with America. I served on Bob Dole’s presidential campaign team and was chief economist for Jack Kemp’s Empower America.

This November, I’m voting for Barack Obama. “


8 posted on 07/16/2008 10:47:19 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: rabscuttle385; indylindy; Ingtar; calcowgirl; Ricebug; KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle; Sybeck1; ...
But the poll also shows McCain isn't pulling as well as expected from the independents and moderates to whom his "maverick" reputation was thought to appeal. He also has yet to close the sale with his party's conservative base.
That's what he gets for stabbing his own in the back.

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9 posted on 07/16/2008 10:47:53 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Bulls and bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.)
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“In other news, avowed traitors favor Obambi, 100% - Zero.”

And all enemies of America, including terrorists, favor B. Hussein 100% to zero.


10 posted on 07/16/2008 10:48:57 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Crimson Elephant
Are some people so mad they will vote FOR Obama just to stick it to the GOP and American public?

Well, some folks are mavericks. Case in point: John McCain.

But how could you vote FOR Obama and still call yourself a conservative?

I would not vote for Obama, no matter how pissed off I was at McCain and the other statists in the Republican Party. Outright voting for Obama is just plain wrong.

11 posted on 07/16/2008 10:52:07 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Bulls and bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.)
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You and other anti-McCain activist should read and ponder Obama’s own words. Read Obama’s speech and the thread:

Obama Remarks On Confronting Terrorist Threats (TRANSCRIPT — “must read”)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2046488/posts

Obama wants to destroy our nuclear arsenal, disarm unilaterally, and AFTER terrorists attack us with WMD, killing untold thousands of innocents, he will trace back the source, but he will NOT preempt terrorist attacks, by killing the terrorists, BEFORE they can come and attack us.

Go ahead, stay home, vote third party and you will be responsible for Obama’s destruction of the country.


12 posted on 07/16/2008 10:54:04 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus
This is a very interesting breakdown. My 2 cents.

There is no way 13% of conservatives will vote for Obama. This is either posturing, or people deliberately misleading the pollster on their politics.

The only way independents will vote Obama is if the GOP and McCain sit on their hands and don't aggressively attack him. He has so many vast negatives that shedding any light on them will push most independents into voting GOP.

As for the conservatives, they will come around. I've said it before - the bottom line is this election is Star Wars with Obama as the Death Star.

General Tagge: But that's impossible. How will McCain maintain control without the conservative policies?
Governor Tarkin: Fear will keep the local constituencies in line. Fear of this Obama.

13 posted on 07/16/2008 10:58:26 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Crimson Elephant

Obama most assuredly WANTS to change (damage) America more. The problem is that McCain has a solid history of actually doing the damage while Obama is mostly an ineffective talker.

Some will take that as a reason to actually vote for Obama. I would never vote for Obama but I won’t vote for McCain either.


14 posted on 07/16/2008 10:59:04 PM PDT by Harvey105
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Go ahead, stay home, vote third party and you will be responsible for Obama’s destruction of the country.

Go ahead. Vote McCain. The rest of us know who to go after when Juan's amnesty for illegals (backed by Lindsey Graham, Ted Kennedy, and the rest of the Democrats) becomes law.

The only thing that could potentially harm this country is an apathetic electorate that is doing nothing while it sinks into the quicksand of statism. Voting for either McCain or Obama does nothing to reverse this slide.

15 posted on 07/16/2008 11:00:15 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Bulls and bears make money. Pigs get slaughtered.)
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To: Harvey105

“Obama is mostly an ineffective talker.”

Don’t kid yourself. Obama may be that, but he has some powerful interests behind him, may even be foreign interests — he is just a figure head.

Didn’t you notice how he defeated the “unbeatable” Clinton machinery? Aren’t you noticing the huge amount of money that is pouring into his campaign? Aren’t you wondering about all that?


16 posted on 07/16/2008 11:05:42 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus

“Go ahead, stay home, vote third party and you will be responsible for Obama’s destruction of the country.”

Obama/Osama is not capable of the destruction of this country any more than Clinton or Carter was... Sometimes things have to bottom out.


17 posted on 07/16/2008 11:10:31 PM PDT by babygene (This Government no longer works to secure our freedoms and provide for our common defense.)
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To: Crimson Elephant

I think Iraq has much to do with conservatives voting for someone who will simply end Bush’s war.


18 posted on 07/16/2008 11:11:29 PM PDT by DoingTheFrenchMistake
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To: rabscuttle385

“The rest of us know who to go after “

Is that a threat? Are you “going to go after” those who dare to vote for McCain, instead of Obama? Are you going to track them down and “go after them”? Just exactly what do you mean by that? Are you threatening physical violence?


19 posted on 07/16/2008 11:20:38 PM PDT by FocusNexus ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: FocusNexus

“Maverick’ McCain Loses Middle As Conservatives Also Hold Back (IBD Poll)”

You mean screwing your base to endear yourself to the squishy middle does NOTHING but cause you to lose both?

Wow, who knew?


20 posted on 07/16/2008 11:22:10 PM PDT by Grunthor (I see you are playing stupid again. Looks like you're winning too.)
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