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OBAMA-BIDEN: FIRST TIME IN 68 YEARS A TICKET WITH NO MILITARY EXPERIENCE
Townhall.com ^ | 8-25-08 | Michael Medved

Posted on 08/25/2008 1:21:03 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: Non-Sequitur; af_vet_rr; SJackson
Their non-service is not the issue.

The point is the hypocrisy of the Left and old media.

Quayle and Bush were ridiculed for serving in the reserves.

Fast forward to today. The only experience the two Leftists clowns have is opposing our military at every turn and seeking their defeat. That is a legitimate issue.

61 posted on 08/25/2008 4:35:32 PM PDT by Jacquerie (McCain will kick, not kiss the a$$ of Islam.)
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To: Carley
Thanks, I thought you were quoting from the article and couldn't find it.

It's a minor item that not many people care about, but it sounds to me like he might have woven a small tale. But if he had asthma, he had it, and whether a draft deferrment or failing an induction physical, it's legit that he didn't serve.

62 posted on 08/25/2008 4:37:22 PM PDT by SJackson (as a black man, you know, Barack can get shot going to the gas station, Michelle O)
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To: Borges; HIDEK6

Unlike sailors, Teddy was not subject to naval law, aka Rocks & Shoals.


63 posted on 08/25/2008 4:38:33 PM PDT by Jacquerie (McCain will kick, not kiss the a$$ of Islam.)
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To: af_vet_rr

Those young men sound like a good number of the radio ‘conservatives’ offered to us these days. Few if any served, and some actively sought to get out of serving. Some were antiwar protestors during Vietnam.


64 posted on 08/25/2008 5:52:12 PM PDT by Pelham (Press 1 for English)
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To: SJackson

The first time, but not the last. It’s the way things are going to be from now on.

The future leaders of the Republican and Democratic parties came of age after the draft was abolished. The vast majority of them have never served in the military, never experienced war.

From this point on, presidential (and vice presidential) candidates who have served in the military will be as rare as hen’s teeth.


65 posted on 08/25/2008 5:57:46 PM PDT by walsh
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To: Bob J

LOL!


66 posted on 08/25/2008 6:32:25 PM PDT by keats5
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To: Carley
How can you be rejected from military service but then told he could be activated in a national emergency?

That describes me. I got my "Dear Upchuck" letter in early summer, 1967.

I took the physical and failed.

My draft status was changed from 1A to 1Y, meaning I would be called up only in a national emergency. When I asked for a definition of that, I was told, "only if the US is attacked."

I was never called up and grieved for many friends who went KIA in Viet Nam.

67 posted on 08/25/2008 7:30:40 PM PDT by upchuck (Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. (nObama))
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To: Cindy

BUMP!

How ‘bout “BO and ‘lil Joe”


68 posted on 08/25/2008 7:35:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about. (nObama))
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To: upchuck

That works, too.

I tend to spell it out for those who are using translators and/or are new to the English language.


69 posted on 08/25/2008 7:47:07 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Pelham
Those young men sound like a good number of the radio ‘conservatives’ offered to us these days. Few if any served, and some actively sought to get out of serving. Some were antiwar protestors during Vietnam.

It's easy to blame the "radio conservatives", but we have some fairly prominent high-ranking Republicans in power (or who were in power) who looked down upon military service or didn't think anything of it, and either pulled the right strings to get cushy assignments in the US, or flat out got deferments.

That has sent a signal to many young Republicans these days that military service doesn't matter. People are going to jump on me for saying that, but the numbers are on my side. We may have a much smaller military than we had even just 15 or 20 years ago, and many who are currently serving are not Republicans, but any physically and mentally fit young Republican could easily get in the military in some capacity.

My brother said it best - the GOP should have added a plank that states something like "if you are mentally and physically eligible to serve your nation's armed forces, you should do so", because Clinton and George W Bush are just the start of administrations lacking in real military experience.
70 posted on 08/25/2008 8:58:07 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr

“It’s easy to blame the “radio conservatives”, but we have some fairly prominent high-ranking Republicans in power (or who were in power) who looked down upon military service or didn’t think anything of it, and either pulled the right strings to get cushy assignments in the US, or flat out got deferments. “

You’re preaching to the choir, I’m right with you.

My jibe about ‘radio conservatives’ was aimed in part at the author of the piece. Michael Medved didn’t simply sit out the Vietnam War, he was an antiwar activist who played the useful idiot for Ho Chi Minh and General Giap. His pal Dennis Prager likewise avoided service and protested the war. Hugh Hewitt was younger, but never saw fit to offer his service to the peacetime Army. But right now they all like to posture as this era’s Churchills, sending others to do what they themselves avoided. I cite them because they appear to have more than a little influence in recent Republican politics.

My father was a Regular Army officer from WWII through Vietnam. He often expresses to me his unease with the lack of military service of so many of our current political class. It tends to insulate them from the people they are sending into combat. And some recent ones have been notable for appearing to ignore the counsel of the professional military. Of course the military doesn’t have the luxury of deciding what is a wise use of military force, they simply get to enact the policies decided upon by politicians.


71 posted on 08/25/2008 10:34:46 PM PDT by Pelham (Obama bin Biden.)
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To: IM2MAD

that should be said in a McCain ad.....


72 posted on 08/26/2008 12:05:46 AM PDT by tina07 (In loving memory of my father,WWII Vet. CBI 10/16/42 - 12/17/45, d. 11/1/85)
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To: upchuck

Thanks for clarifying the status. Seems people here really know the facts on just about everything. :>)


73 posted on 08/26/2008 3:51:23 AM PDT by Carley
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To: SJackson

“The man had no training to rule. Unlike Tiberius, he had never commanded any armies, and had little experience in public office. Now, with the adoring world at his feet, the young princeps’ head was permanently turned, and he became intoxicated with Power.*”

*Historical novel “Pontius Pilate” by Paul L. Maier, Chapter 24,page 311, describing the rule of Caligula


74 posted on 08/26/2008 7:04:58 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: SJackson

Even more important....

Neither has held a job as an adult which didn’t get a paycheck from the government.

We have a national ticket where neither has ever held a private sector job. No experience as a working man.

Oh, wait. Neither did:

Kennedy/Johnson.
Mondale/Ferraro.
Dukakis/Whoever...
Clinton/Gore.
Gore/Lieberman.

And Kerry/Edwards can only be exempted because Edwards was a trial lawyer (which, despite his noxious work, is actually a private sector job which requires risk of capital and personal achievement to avoid failure - unlike gov jobs). So Kudos to John Edwards for at least having a job!!!! Better than anything Joe Biden can say.


75 posted on 08/26/2008 10:08:06 AM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 2008)
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